Should Mental disorders be accounted for in crimes?

I'm curious to see what you guys think about the Mentally ill commiting crimes, do you think that instead of being punished and being put in prison for a very long time, should they be in an psychiatric facility? or do you think everyone should be charged the same way?

I personally think the mentally ill should not be persecuted the same as someone with a person that doesn't have anything wrong with them, especially people with Multiple Personality Disorder, Schizophrenia, or Bi Polar disorder, and etc. we all know that time spent in prison is not pleasant, who's to say when these people with severe disorders get out there condition is worse? How is there anything accomplished then? Obviously people like this need treatment not punishment.

I'm interested to see who thinks the insane should be tried the same way as the sane.

To a reasonable extent.

Define "mentally ill".

As much as it offends the conservative in me to allow people to 'get away with what they've done', ultimately someone who doesn't understand their offence, won't understand the punishment. Here in the UK, I believe being 'of sound mind' is a requirement for most offences, therefore being mentally incapable effectively makes you innocent. It's no get out of jail free card though, from what little I see of this country's treatment of the mentally ill.

I agree with Shaw. Mental illness should be taken into account, but still.

Indeed, murder is always murder, but if a retard shoplifts because he doesn't know what the fuck is going on, that's different.

'Murder is Murder' thats easy for someone who has nothing wrong with him/her to say.

If a retarded dude murders someone we can't just let them go. Throwing them into fulsom prison isn't right either, but you can't just let them go. Obviously they need help.

If a retarded dude murders someone we can't just let them go. Throwing them into fulsom prison isn't right either, but you can't just let them go. Obviously they need help.[/quote:35dq9dij]

I've never believed nor stated to let them go, rather rehab.

I've never believed nor stated to let them go, rather rehab.[/quote:35bgg644]
Then we are arguing the same point.

'Murder is Murder' thats easy for someone who has nothing wrong with him/her to say.[/quote]
If a retarded dude murders someone we can't just let them go. Throwing them into fulsom prison isn't right either, but you can't just let them go. Obviously they need help.[/quote]

I've never believed nor stated to let them go, rather rehab.[/quote]
Then we are arguing the same point.[/quote]


lol well I guess that isn't the first time both people argued the same points.

If they're insane but are fully aware of their actions then they should go to regular prison. If they are not then they should be placed in a mental ward for however long they need to be there, possibly permanently if they're a severe threat to society.

The problem with that is almost all insane aren't aware of there actions, if they were are they truely insane in the first place?

I'm sure there have been plenty of mentally disturbed murderers who were fully aware that they were murdering someone.

In my normative utopia if they are so mentally incapacitate as to be unable to sign the scoial contract then they would never be in a position to harm someone. Otherwise Justice be done, and social mercy can do what it desires.

Cool beans, we'll lock them in a cell for the rest of their life.
We might as well just kill them now then.

The sick go to the mental wards, I don't give a shit how brutal the crime or how aware a psychopath is of his actions. Hes better off in the hands of medical staff than prison staff.

Better to lock a murderer up who can't control or understand his or her actions and will probably do it again, for the rest of their days in a mental ward than to let them out and be a danger to society.

Hitler had the right idea, we should just kill anyone with mental deficiencies or psychotic episodes.

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