"Occupy" Superthread

Eh? I don't need to argue the that Christianity is the truth, I'm arguing that Christians should support OWS.

Which isn't a valid critique of anything I've said. My religious beliefs are entirely irrelevant to the topic at hand, as this not a topic about religion.

I'm not critiquing you I'm critiquing Christians. You just happen to be a Christian. Apparently.

The topic is about OWS and its support. I'm saying Christians should support it. And I only said that because I saw MatthewChris critique Ler and thought it ought to be stated that it should have the backing of Christians.

If someone says they believe in libertarianism and they also they support criminalisation of breathing air, that would be contradictory and worth pointing out. It's hard enough debating people without them contradicting themselves, let alone when they do.

@Kali- It does not really matter whether or not Christianity is really, but that Christians believe it to be real.

Actually, that's all that matters. Otherwise it's not an argument.

And even from a Christian perspective, should religion take primacy in policy-making? Jesus seems to think otherwise:

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's." Mark 12:17

Precisely.

So you're arguing that whether Christianity is real or not is what determines their agreement with OWS or not. Because I'm arguing that people's belief in Christianity will determine their agreement with OWS.

Remember Kali I'm arguing that if people believe in Christianity they would agree with OWS. I'm not saying Christianity is real or right. I'm simply pointing out their hypocrisy. Pick one or the other, or accept you're a hypocrite.

I'm saying that this discussion has no place here unless you can verify that Christianity is correct. Additionally, verify that your particular interpretation of Christianity is the correct one.

As I said, I don't believe religion should take primacy in terms of policy-making, or in politics at all. Temporal matters are solved via temporal solutions. Jesus seems to agree with that sentiment, and thus your criticism of so-called 'hypocrisy' is baseless.

No it was actually chucked at him well he was being helped.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/11/vatican_ows.html
http://www.npr.org/2011/10/26/141659992/occupy-wall-streets-most-unlikely-ally-the-pope
Even the Pope agrees with OWS and he is supposed to be important in Catholicism or something.

OMG so and so is a Christian and he doesnt support OWS! That man is not a true christian (sarcasm).

How do you know that? Was he in the front of the crowd? Gas canisters are generally lobbed into the center of crowds, by either pressured air or by a physical throw. I doubt it was on purpose.

Yet again, this is completely irrelevant unless you can confirm that Christianity is true. Otherwise you're just listing the opinion of an organization, and more accurately, of an individual.

He needs his own branch of Christianity called Kalalism. You don't need a bible. You don't need to follow Jesus' principles. You can basically do what you want and still go to Heaven! It's awesome! And the omnipotent and omniscient God has no place on Earth! He created everything but he's done with it now! Only when you die do you matter to Him!

Well I honestly dont believe in God so this is irrelevant to me. But just because the pope supports OWS does not mean every Christian should support OWS.

Again, attacks on my character aren't relevant or useful. They hold no argumentative weight.

So you're a Catholic who rejects the Pope, Scripture, and God's interference with Earth. There's nothing contradictory in that statement whatsoever. Let's face it, you're more deist than Catholic.

You dont have to listen to the Pope's every word to be a Catholic brah.

I'm not going to debate religion and theology in a topic that has nothing to do with either. Resist your urge to engage in ad hominem.

Really? You had no problem with it earlier. Hypocrisy count = 2.
P.S. Your reply was all too predictable and consequently boring.

My Uni city of Plymouth has its own group now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-15601856!

I saw them yesterday when I went shopping. I should go over and speak to them.