THIS IS WHAT A POLICE STATE LOOKS LIKE!

http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-s...erican-citizens-battlefield-they-define-being
While nearly all Americans head to family and friends to celebrate Thanksgiving, the Senate is gearing up for a vote on Monday or Tuesday that goes to the very heart of who we are as Americans. The Senate will be voting on a bill that will direct American military resources not at an enemy shooting at our military in a war zone, but at American citizens and other civilians far from any battlefield — even people in the United States itself.
Senators need to hear from you, on whether you think your front yard is part of a “battlefield” and if any president can send the military anywhere in the world to imprison civilians without charge or trial.
The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. Even Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) raised his concerns about the NDAA detention provisions during last night’s Republican debate. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself.
The worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial provision is in S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which will be on the Senate floor on Monday. The bill was drafted in secret by Sens. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) and passed in a closed-door committee meeting, without even a single hearing.
I know it sounds incredible. New powers to use the military worldwide, even within the United States? Hasn’t anyone told the Senate that Osama bin Laden is dead, that the president is pulling all of the combat troops out of Iraq and trying to figure out how to get combat troops out of Afghanistan too? And American citizens and people picked up on American or Canadian or British streets being sent to military prisons indefinitely without even being charged with a crime. Really? Does anyone think this is a good idea? And why now?
The answer on why now is nothing more than election season politics. The White House, the Secretary of Defense, and the Attorney General have all said that the indefinite detention provisions in the National Defense Authorization Act are harmful and counterproductive. The White House has even threatened a veto. But Senate politics has propelled this bad legislation to the Senate floor.
But there is a way to stop this dangerous legislation. Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) is offering the Udall Amendment that will delete the harmful provisions and replace them with a requirement for an orderly Congressional review of detention power. The Udall Amendment will make sure that the bill matches up with American values.
In support of this harmful bill, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) explained that the bill will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield” and people can be imprisoned without charge or trial “American citizen or not.” Another supporter, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) also declared that the bill is needed because “America is part of the battlefield.”
The solution is the Udall Amendment; a way for the Senate to say no to indefinite detention without charge or trial anywhere in the world where any president decides to use the military. Instead of simply going along with a bill that was drafted in secret and is being jammed through the Senate, the Udall Amendment deletes the provisions and sets up an orderly review of detention power. It tries to take the politics out and put American values back in.
In response to proponents of the indefinite detention legislation who contend that the bill “applies to American citizens and designates the world as the battlefield,” and that the “heart of the issue is whether or not the United States is part of the battlefield,” Sen. Udall disagrees, and says that we can win this fight without worldwide war and worldwide indefinite detention.
The senators pushing the indefinite detention proposal have made their goals very clear that they want an okay for a worldwide military battlefield, that even extends to your hometown. That is an extreme position that will forever change our country.
Now is the time to stop this bad idea. Please urge your senators to vote YES on the Udall Amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act.

This is terrible! America is increasingly accelerating towards fascism. I mean at this point you could say goodbye to the good old constitution.

Ok, it wont pass.
What are you worrying about? Our government is this bureaucratic to PREVENT legislation like this.

Isn't this like our Canadian War Measures Act?

Bill sounds pretty fucked up. I signed that petition even though I am fairly confident it will not pass.

So they continue setting themselves up for disaster then? Funny that the NWO crowed thinks these clowns digging their own graves are "incredibly smart super-villains".

I doubt it.

and yes, this is a bad idea, and I'd be damned if any President of the United States were to ever have the power to invade Canada just to send some SEALS in to arrest a citizen.
If they were to ever have that kind of gall they need to be taught that they do not run the world.

Not a chance the bill will pass ESPECIALLY when there is a Dem in office.

Is the US government trying to stir up a revolution?
That being said, pretty scary shit. Pretty fucked up. Guess we know what will happen if the Republicans get in.

If it's like the War Measures Act it will be fine as long as they use it responsibly.

Do you really think they will use a law which will put the country in a state of permanent martial law, responsibly? May I remind you that more people have already died at the hands of the government in the occupy movement, than those protesting in the soviet union between 1989-1991?

It's a load of horse shit is what it is. Would you seriously be fine with being considered a potential combatant by your military? Or being arrested by the military and denied due process?

You say the White House intends to veto so what is the problem. I honestly doubt this will ever get through. Though it is bi-partisan legislation.

1. It was not 'created in secret': that's a way bills are created before being put before Congress. THIS IS WHAT IGNORANCE TOWARD THE WAY GOVERNMENTAL SYSTEMS WORK LOOKS LIKE! 2. One of the provisions of the bill basically says that: Instead of the government (i.e. the president/domestic intelligence agencies) having control over the transfer and incarceration of suspected terrorists, certain branches of the military do. 3. That is not the total bill it is just a provision which must go through and debated and changed before it can get passed and then must get through the president, who will most likely veto if the provision is kept in place, and then it has to be re-passed with 2/3 the vote. Which it won't.

PEDRO'd

THIS IS WHAT GETTING PEDRO'ED LOOKS LIKE!

But seriously, lets get real. Most of these articles show no understanding of the American political system, political culture, or just lawmaking in general.

It's still horse shit.

100% predictable. The lot of you.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the government would not want you to know about this.
@ Kali - Were you born stupid, or did it grow on you?