Italian Economy Crashes!

South European countries have some really severe problems...

Yes, many are crippled my their tendency to not give a flying fudge muffin about the rest of the Eurozone.

I've already heard some random ideas that sprung up, probably as a reaction to this and other problems in Southern Europe, like creating the "neuro", a currency for Northern Europe. Apparently, a thirds of the people in the Netherlands want out old currency back. But, as I have zero knowledge of anything economically, I'm going to have to stay neutral on this.

What the hell does that even solve? Government changes are NOT what's needed its good financial
and economic plans that need to be put to action not a fricking revolution. An from what i understand France is
partly socialist so why do you want to see that crushed you fanatical leftist!?

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Socialism is more then government change or revolution, its economics too, hell its MOSTLY economics.

France is social democratic. Not Socialism bro, were do you see workers commonly owning the means of production in France?

It's far from social democratic according to my friend.

I want the EU to survive because The Netherlands is rather dependant of it. Because of the EU trade much easier with our neighbouring country´s. Our Economy would take a bit of a hit if we would have to exchange money every time we cross the border. It would not be devastating but it would be noticeable.

But my school has been discussing this matter and we came to the conclusion that in the South there would be a ´poorer´ Euro and in the North the ´normal´ Euro would survive.

umm you do know that there are thousands of worker strikes and union activism in france? In fact i hear that bus drivers
have to set certain date's so that other unions can strike in the streets! they have to fricking wait for certain days to strike is
that not good enough for workers? are they being abused NO!

No this is false strikes are as common sometimes less then here.

Ok they can strike and protest, now how exactly does this mean the workers own and control there workplaces aka have socialism?

That's just it they have the freedom to work WHEREVER they want so they do
in retrospect control their workplace as well as their nation just like any other citizen
of any other democratic regime. {the kind of government like france is what i am trying to say}

There is a difference between workers control and for people to work anywhere they want.

so here we are, my country is a legitimate dictatorship (thanks berlusconi! for doing nothing in these 8 years) europe couldnt stand berlusconi way of action anymore so they sent us one of their puppets to rule us(same story for greece) Mario Monti was nothing for the italian people and now hes prime minister hes there for "save" the country(banks)ass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULns-cSUeVs in this video nigel farage enjoy!

This quote may fit into this.
"It takes us twenty years, twenty years to forget why it [economy crashed] happened."

When people of Rome shouted to Berlusconi to:" go home, we don't need you!!"

Berlusconi replied:which one I have 20

I'd have said, to the one in the depths of the earth!

*Sigh* called it.

No, not at fucking all. They dont control the way the business operates, they do not own the business, and they dont have complete influence over it. They some some SWAY.

When workers control there business its called a workers cooperative.

ok then what about Publix an american supermarket store literally OWNDED by the workers. Just look for one or talk
to some former employess the'll tell you how it's runned. BTW the reason i know is because it was started in my homestate of florida.

As someone who does business with Publix and in Florida, you mistake that each company individual who run the store has the freedom that he or so wants with out company bearing down on them. I can tell you that the store its self is not owned by the workers (Not that i want a bunch of stupid teens to run the store, or the fact the average manger is an asshole who bends over to bigger companies like coca cola)