Mexico or France Military Embarassment

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Who has the more embarrassing military history, France or Mexico?

France 3 vote(s) 6.8%
Mexico 41 vote(s) 93.2%
  1. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    What the fuck are you talking about? Ethiopia =/= Britain. Just because you can defeat a medieval african nation does not mean you are ready for war with the greatest military power of then-modern history.
    When Mussolini came to power they began to industrialize and militarize, and overall improve their military, Ethiopia and Albania were for experience, by 1943 they expected to be able to compete with world powers. And they could have. And no, I don't expect Hitler to have waited, it was in his best interests to start the war then. I was simply speaking from the Italian perspective, where it made infinitely more sense to wait four years to start the real war.
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    That's not the point that I am trying to make. I'm saying that they did very poorly against the Ethiopians despite them being "medieval Africans". Not to mention that they went on to lose against the Greeks.

    Despite "being for experience", they still took a beating. During WW2, they basically just sat on their asses and let the Germans do everything for them. They had plenty of time to prepare for combat with world powers during WW2. No matter how you look at it, they were terrible fighters, prepared or not.
  3. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Well France has fought 168 wars and have won 109, lost 49, and drawn 10.



  4. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Italy is worse than both of them. Mexico beat France so Mexico wins.
  5. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Is there ever a nation that has never won a war and what nation has the best record (minus u.s)
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    What?
  7. UnitRico Well-Known Member

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    Why exclude the US?

    Also, did you mean Italy as a country or the Italians and their descendants? Because there's quite the difference.
  8. Toast Well-Known Member

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    The US has hardly had any wars to start with.

    I'm guessing it's Britain with the most wars won.

    I don't know if there is any nation that has never won a war. Maybe Bhutan.
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    Mexico has only fought 5 wars in its lifetime,

    The Independence against spain: Mexican Victory
    The french incursion into mexico: Mexican victory
    The texan war for independence: American Victory
    The Mexican-American war: American victory
    World War 2: Allied Victory

    France has been through Thousands.
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    Mexico was officialy involved in WWII? Wow, I never knew that...
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    They supplied the Allies with more Oil then the USA did, However i think Canada supplied more then mexico. and there were a couple of Mexican squadrons over the Philippines.
  12. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Still did they Officaly declare war?

    Someone should find out who has won the most wars.
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    Great Britain.
  16. Romulus211 Proconsul

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    The british
  17. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    GREAT BRITAIN IS THE GRAND CHAMPION OF WAR.

    EVERYONE SING IN THE GLORY OF THE CROWN AND QUEEN.
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    That wasn't really Mexico vs. Spain. That was Mexico vs. Bourbon Mexico. As hard as Mexico might try, you can't lose a civil war.

    Again, Mexico getting steamrolled by France until France went home doesn't count as a win. Sure, once all of the French troops left and the only troops left to protect the monarch were Mexicans, they prevailed, but civil wars don't count as victories.

    Decisive embarrassment.

    Even bigger embarrassment.

    And Mexico has been in more than five wars. Not that it won any of them.
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    Just as another fun fact Brazil was part of the allied powers too. They declare war against Germany and Italy on 22 August 1942. Brazil then sent a 25,700 strong force to Europe that fought mainly on the Italian front.
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    Really? I thought the rest were civil wars so I did not put them, What other ones were they in?

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