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  1. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Did anyone even bother to check out the Link I sent with every single example of American imperalism.

    Oh and please tell me we didn't forget the U.S bombings of Cambodia and Laos.
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    I think I might kill you now.
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  4. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    Okay, without disputing any of those acts(and I am not disagreeing with you), America isn't Imperialist anymore, if it ever was.
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    Yeah we're pretty Imperialist. We are in Africa, Asia, Latin america, and hell even Europe.
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    I mean war wise. I hate it when people say things like "they just invaded Iraq for oil", etc. The Africa, Latin America, and Europe bases are a bit controversial.
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    Technologically speaking we haven't been to war since world war 2, however everything america does where it sends troops to another country or uses its own powers to shape it (Like Bomb Yemen) is considered American Imperialism. One could argue that it has brought alot of gain to us, however I still go with we need to cutt back on the Imperialism and be more we where between 1919-1941, you know isolationist.

    America also needs to stop acting like it cares for human rights and human gain, hell we only accepted half of what the U.N did and stood for in the cold war because of our irrational fear of communism, much like the Vietnamese boat refuges.
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    Okay, I agree with most of this. It would be good for us to avoid conflict, but i wouldn't want to be isolationist like Ron Paul calls for. I can see how our "wars" in the Middle East can seem Imperialist even thought my personal opinion is that they are not. I will be blatantly against that we are still genocidal and that we are "evil" in anyway.
  9. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    I would never say for the united states to go as far as Ron Paul advocates Isolationism, but I will say have a more "true" Peacekeeper ideal and not just on the political or economical gain, do it much like the U.N would. Though anyone who knows much about the U.N has to laugh at the position in Lebanon during their where with Israel. pretty much Israel did what Israel wanted for a while at least, though Lebanon did provided an example of why Suicide bombing is effective....and well i digress, U.S BE MORE HAPPY AND PEACEFUL TO OTHERS.

    Any action done outside a home territory is considered by most to be Imperial. Would I consider the U.S genocidal.....maybe, I mean we did sell Gas to Saddam who then used it to Gas 2 million people, and then we supplied him with weapons which he used to kill Everyone he could, and then to get rid of him we bombed water supplies and well just bombed everything leading to about as many deaths as Saddam caused.

    America has this need to be an asshole first, Humanitarian second.
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    Nice to see someone making sense. That is why I'm still on the fence about my allegiance to the Perry campaign... he is a bit aggressive.
  11. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Personally I'm not going to vote (Can't anyways) I'm exsersing my freedom of voting by realizing that every option sucks and I might as well vote for my cat to become president.

    To be honest its moments like these in History where you question "Hey maybe we should have stayed English Colonies"
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    WE ALWAYS WIN!

    I listened to this after Osama died and I will listen to it now as well.
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    Well yeah everyone does suck, but Perry is the best of a bad situation.
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    You know he died because he fell off chair and onto the German Kaiser helmet right?
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    Germany is but a puppet of the American Empire.
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    That is crazy enough to make perfect sense.
  17. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    And America is but a puppet to the true Spanish Empire.
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    We pretty much rule the world. Fuck with us, and you die, bitch.
  20. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Not just Pretty much, we do rule the world.

    No other country has every done what we done.

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