US Gun Laws

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  1. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    So... bad but not as bad?
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  2. LeonTrotsky Well-Known Member

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    It's not about distribution of the proper credentials, it is really a problem of people obtaining firearms illegally. It is also pretty much impossible to tell who's gonna buy a gun for the purpose of selling or giving it away illegally. It's a HUGE problem.
    Prove to me that no guns=safer. Just because Canada has a higher standard of living and a lower population which are proven factors in crime rates, does not mean that you guys are experts on crime prevention. In the US, having an assault rifle is semi-looked down upon. Most Americans think of gun laws as hunting rifles, shotguns, pistols, etc.
    Edit: Also, I can't imagine what would happen if something actually happened. Would you guys try to get some nukes from the Queen?
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  3. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    Proper credentials include ethical standard testing. That means that an idea of how the weapon will be used should be known.
    While, yes, it is impossible to tell for EVERYONE, efforts still should be made.
  4. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    Well just statistically here the provinces and territories with stricter gun controls had less gun crime.
  5. MayorEmanuel Do not weep, for salvation is coming.

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    And of course imported lemons from Mexico lower the rate of highway fatalities. Just because two factors line up does not mean that you are right. There are dozens of different factors in play here and stricter regulation could not play a major part.
  6. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    http://opencarry.org/opencarry.html

    Basically, in most instances you're allowed to walk around without a carry license once you've passed the required background checks to purchase a firearm...

    @Observer, Assault riffles only account for between .15-.3% of violent crimes depending on the numbers you read (the numbers are so small that the FBI doesn't track them very well)
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  7. CoExIsTeNcE LeonTrotsky in Disguse

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    No shit Sherlock. Cocaine becomes legal less people are arrested for possession of cocaine. They will not be using guns to commit crimes.

    I think you are misunderstanding what is happening. It is like this. I would purchase a gun legally with all proper paperwork. The Leon would say, "Hey bro, I'll give you $500 to borrow that gun."
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  8. Romulus211 Proconsul

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    In California it is now illegal to carry a firearm in public, We move more Liberal everyday.
  9. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    I support the right to bear arms. The American people should have the right to carry a firearm. Living in the south, I come from a place where most everyone owns a gun. Also it makes America impossible to invade.
  10. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    No I think the military makes it impossible to invade.
  11. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    Well yes, but if any army made it on to US soil, many people would be able to take up arms against them.
  12. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    My position is that the lisence qualifications can include testing to see whether a person would actually sell their weapon once they obtain it.
    Btw: I find this Leon person to be shady...
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    I have no problem with guns or people who carry guns, Shouldn't someone have at least some sort of right to carry a firearm. Though I do support it being harder to obtain guns for convicted criminals or people with unstable mental problems.

    Though I am personally curiose on how the removal of guns in the U.K as worked out, and correct me if im wrong but doesn't Switzerland and Finland have some of the highest gun rates in the world and yet fewest crimes.
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    That's mostly because of the people who live there. The Swiss apparently have a good sense of responsibility.
    While I have no problems with guns themselves, and would like to go to a shooting range, I don't see any reason to have a gun at home, or carry one around in public.

    The thing I don't get is how many US citizens support the gun laws, but are against marijuana legalisation. Both could work fine, if there are strict rules as to who can get them where.
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    ARGH!!! I go to sleep and there's 3 responses and 20 more posts....
    Actually they are... People can become really desperate at times...
    Doctors make errors, but they also cure/help alot of people... You don't often see a person killing there wives etc. with bombs...
    Oh this can only go well... And while Switzerland might be safer than England(are you referring to the UK?) so is Germany, France, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, The Netherlands, Belgium, Austria and many other countries. Those countries all have relatively strict gun laws... I know this sounds lame but Switzerland is the exception. Did you know that gun-related homicide rates in the United States are twenty to thirty-five times higher than they are in countries that are economically and politically similar to it?
    See above...
    The last statement is a flat out lie... It will be hard to prove either side, but I refuse to believe that having a large amount of guns among citizens makes them safer. That's just logical.
    Most people will refrain from using their hands. It's just way easier to pull the trigger than to strangle someone to death or beat them with a baseball bat...
    You got to be really paranoid/stupid/delusional to think that the government will do anything that gives you the right to use the firearms on them.
  17. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    You can buy rocket launcher as self defense weapon in Texas, badass.
  18. CoExIsTeNcE LeonTrotsky in Disguse

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    My only issue with that is that human beings have this neat little ability called lying.
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  19. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    Just imagine the military response to that.
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    None? Cause it legal. US gun laws= badass.

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