US Gun Laws

No here. If they call in the army over a hunting rifle.

It's starting to sound like Canada is the one with backward gun laws if the army is sent in to arrest a man with a handgun.

The amount of stuff that is legal to own in the united states is amazing, though the majority of murders involving weapons are done with the most basic of handguns.

Hell Mini-guns are legal here and thats just badass. M203 grenade launchers go for under 5,000 dollars.

Show me proof that I am wrong.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
Ever heard of Harvard?

The Harvard report [above] does make reference to that, but it also states that the wide-spread presence of guns does not correlate to rises in violence.

And you must be an idiot. The Amendments are meant to DEFEND THE INDIVIDUAL AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT. That was the whole basis of writing them in... and getting someone a promotion. The Amendments are above the government itself, whether or not they give the right to own firearms IS NOT THEIR CHOICE.

This is true. But new law say that it is illegal to buy new ones. Therefore there are actually only about 5 in circulation and if I am not mistaken, three of them belong to one guy.

True, but the right to bear firearms can be regulated to the point of requiring proof that the person is not. Many states already require a person to have a clean mental health history to buy guns. It may not be that much of a strech to go into having a trained professional interview a person to determine the risk factor of them selling the weapon. It would not be denying them it, but the Second Amendment says nothing about regulations being Unconstituational.

Whats odd is that you can own a ak-47 here but not a m16, though you can get the civilian AR-15 and then just mod it so it does the same as an M16.

All I know is i want a fully auto gun and this to be the new law

Yes I have heard of Harvard...
Some "proof":
The homicide rate in the US is higher than any country in the EU.(and many others such as Bangladesh)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
The US ranks top 4 on most murders with firearms.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms

Mabye not a rise(and I say mabye here, because I still believe otherwise), but the current level of crime in the US(that would be high) is maintained.

Well first off I want to thank you for calling me an idiot...
Second capslock is fucking stupid. I can read everything you write perfectly fine...
Why would you need to protect yourself against the government? In what kind of situation would that be required?
Considering that the government can pass new amendments not really.
The people decide who gets to rule the country(that would be the government) so therefore the government does decide. Also according to that logic the government should stay out of all personal affairs. Like doing drugs and alcohol(as a minor)?

You know they do an extensive background check on you right? They make sure you are not a bipolar lunatic.

Really? You are going to put a wikipedia link up against the results of a Harvard study?
And the second link proves nothing. It only says that gun crimes rise with gun ownership. That is obvious. It does not say that CRIME rises with gun ownership. In fact, it does not even say anything about crime rising

There is nothing right about this statement.
Violent crime and crime overal is on the decline in the US. The Harvard study I linked talked about that.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=2221
http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0306.pdf

I apologize for calling you an idiot. It was misplaced and a too much in the moment. Sorry.
Caps lock is appropriate when emphasizing parts of a responce.
I am not necessarily saying that protecting oneself from the government would ever be necessary, but it is in the American culture to view the government as a necessary evil that should be watched closely at all times.
They can pass new Amendments, yes, but that is a process that can take years and needs the approval of the majority of the voting population just to add. To make an Amendment that nullifies previous Amendments is even stickier. And remember; the people are the ones who vote in those in charge. It would be political suicide just to try and add something, let alone nullify something.
I don't reall understand that last that you posted. It seems to contradict what you are trying to say. Personal affairs can include the possession of weapons as well.

@ Warburg Of course a rise in gun ownership is gonna equal a rise in crime committed with GUNS. Not a rise in crime altogether. All it means is more of the crimes are gonna be committed with guns. It does not mean that there are more crimes.

I'm not a gun buff so I don't really know, what are the major differences between an AR15 and an M16?

The name.

So if a plane crashes due to pilot's error are you banging on the door of Boeing, demanding that that all planes be banned. How about when a drunken lunatic starts running people down, should cars not be allowed anymore? Here is a big one, second hand smoke causes 5 times the amount of deaths annually, this should mean that nobody should be allowed to use a cigarette, ever. I know your not about to argue for the prohibition of cigarettes, right? Why do guns warrant this kind of demonization when they don't seem to be the biggest problem?

Not to punch the guy who is on the same side as me but: Niether planes nor cars are built to kill people. Guns are specifically created for the purpose of killing things, human or otherwise.

Is what they were built for relevant? About 32000 people in the US died from automotive accidents last year. Meaning they are much more dangerous that a gun, why does intent matter when that many people are getting killed by reckless people?

Yes, apparently it is relevent.
Chance of use for purpose. Cars are used for transport more than murder. Guns on the other hand have no other purpose. Thought so many die from automotive accidents every year, many more billions of people use cars for their expressed purpose: to get from point A to point B. And those accidents are what they are: accidents. Guns on the other hand are used to kill. True, there are probably some of accidental deaths by gunshot, but the truth that guns have no other purpose than to kill remains.