capital punishment

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by J.F.K the communist, Jan 8, 2012.

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capital punishment: Good or Bad

Poll closed Aug 8, 2012.
its a good thing in the right cases 7 vote(s) 30.4%
its never a good thing 12 vote(s) 52.2%
it should be maybe used in the most horrific crimes 7 vote(s) 30.4%
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  1. J.F.K the communist Member

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    Is capital punishment a good thing. i dodt agree whith allot of things in Britain but one thing i do agree whith in this place is that capital punishment is not used. but what do you think do you think Britain shoulid have capital punishment or not and why.
    J.F.K the communist, Jan 8, 2012
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    How is that you're British and fail to spell Britain correctly and seemingly lack even basic mastery of the English language?
    Kalalification, Jan 8, 2012
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  3. Achtung Kommunisten! Well-Known Member

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    Not sure about the choices, but I certainly do not support reintroduction of capital punishment in Britain, as it goes against the European Convention on Human Rights. I don't oppose it on any moral lines, only that the rule of law should be applied absolutely. After all, we British claim to live under the rule of law and parliamentary sovereignty. The fact that a referendum would probably bring it back is no excuse. I'm fairly sure either Orwell or Churchill said that the test for sanity was to disagree with 3/4 of the British public.
    Achtung Kommunisten!, Jan 8, 2012
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    Well I think it should be reserved for serial killers.
    slydessertfox, Jan 12, 2012
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  5. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Kali you fucking idiot, don't you see his English is perfect. You could learn a thing or two from him and his greatness.
    Viking Socrates, Jan 12, 2012
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    MayorEmanuel, Jan 12, 2012
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  7. J.F.K the communist Member

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    And maybe you.
    J.F.K the communist, Jan 13, 2012
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    So? what argument does that make?(not hostile just curious)
    So it's alright to kill people if they are insane? How fucked up is that?!

    I've always found the hypocricy of Christian Americans facinating. "The bible says you shouldn't kill, but if A kills B we have to kill A"
    Warburg, Jan 13, 2012
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    If they are mentally unstable, no. If they aren't, then capital punishment is an option.
    TheKoreanPoet, Jan 13, 2012
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    Most serial killers would be considered "mentally unstable." I mean it takes a special kind of person to keep on killing.
    How do you justify killing someone?
    Warburg, Jan 13, 2012
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    Using logic. They ended this number of lives for some reason without being mentally unstable. Life is precious to people and for someone to end other peoples lives without just cause or reasons, then they don't deserve to have their life. Just my opinion.
    TheKoreanPoet, Jan 13, 2012
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  12. Vassilli1942 Well-Known Member

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    So I think this discussion is more about civil trials, but I was just wondering what do you think about the Nuremberg Trials or any sort of trials like that? Do you think people should be killed if they're found guilty of crimes against humanity?
    Vassilli1942, Jan 13, 2012
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  13. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Life is precious to people, are you saying that someone's life who committed a crime (even such as serial killing) is no more precious then any other life? and besides everyone can be forgiven. but that's just my philosophy and also you need cause/motivation to charge someone with a crime (I believe)

    Edit: The Nuremberg question is interesting.
    Viking Socrates, Jan 13, 2012
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    I don't get why so many people support killing serial killers. It seems a bit contradictory, does it not?

    I do support killing pedophiles, like Viking Socrates.
    Toast, Jan 13, 2012
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    But you say that they deserve to die because they killed. Can't you see the logical fallacy in that?
    From http://www.isnare.com/?aid=201581&ca=Opinions:
    BLAM!!! and you're converted... I wish it was that easy...
    Warburg, Jan 13, 2012
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  16. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    Well ho hum... Guess the capital punishment class I'm taking through the law school this semester might come in handy... There's actually a lot wrong with capital punishment from both a civil law and natural law standpoints, at least with how it's done in America.

    The applicable amendment on it in the States is the 8th amendment and the cruel and unusual punishment clause (which derives from the English bill of rights of 1689 fyi) which is vague and has little historical or contextual meaning. A good case (although long) to read is Furman v Georgia, for a small fee I might just be convinced to post my case brief on here that summarizes the facts of the case, the conclusion, and the major arguments. We were very close (only 2 justices away) from striking down capital punishment in that case which was decided in '71. In fact, the issue was deemed such a non-issue that they weren't even teaching capital punishment classes in law school when my current professors went through
    pedro3131, Jan 13, 2012
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    Nope. Still a supporter of capital punishment. Logic counters logic itself.
    I still support life sentencing, but not for serial killers.
    TheKoreanPoet, Jan 13, 2012
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  18. J.F.K the communist Member

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    Every person deserves one right and that right is life we should not take that away no mater what.
    J.F.K the communist, Jan 13, 2012
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    We have had this discussion earlier... If we put a murderer to death... Then... Haven't we ourselves become murderers and can't we sentence ourselves to death for murder?
    battleearl, Jan 13, 2012
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  20. Achtung Kommunisten! Well-Known Member

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    That's why the law defines murder as whatever we want it to be.
    Achtung Kommunisten!, Jan 13, 2012
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