The Netherlands Superthread

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  1. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    And that's how the Marines got there nicknames devildogs, ironically im assuming in German it translates to "Idiots who run into gunfire"
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    If you consider the US didn't wouldn't have likely joined if Japan wouldn't have bombed Pearl Harbor, and they wouldn't have to fight Russia, they would have probably been able to prepare some invasion of the Isles. Even if they could postpone the US' involvement of the war for a year they could have taken out the allied bases near Europe. And I'm not sure about this, but I think the Germans had a pretty extensive intelligence network in the USSR. So when Stalin would start preparing, the Germans would have been able to prepare themselves too. Hitler's fascist networks being one of the most effective networks out there, he'd be able to prepare his well organised army much faster than Stalin would have with the enormous disorganized infantry-blob being the USSR's army.

    Meh. I don't know if making an alliance with Italy was such a smart plan. In the end, the Italians turned out to be useless, only getting themselves into unneeded trouble. If I were Hitler, I would just have not joined the Italian North African front, and let them struggle. Eventually, when the Italians would break, the allies were bound to do a landing on the Sicily, and that would be Hitler's perfect moment to stab Mussolini in the back and take over the country himself. North Africa was fairly useless, except for the Suez Canal, and if they needed to they could always land in North Africa. And by that time (given the scenario where the Isles were already taken over) the British would have been broken anyway. That would only need one mediocre landing in both North Africa and India to completely wipe them out.

    As Rick pointed out: initially, yes. Later, the Nazi's started massacring them, and that's when they all joined the Russian side. They hated the USSR, but it's choosing between being massacred, or suppressed. I'd have made my choice.
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    Well the US troops were not under command of the British but yes we didn't really lesson to the advice of the British and French commanders so American troops were using old tactics. To me the greatest thing the US did was be a morale booster to the British and French. Also the Germans were having a hard time breaking through British and French lines so how were the Germans expecting to win now that the Americans were now in the fight.
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    Hmm... For some reason Earl just deleted a post...
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    You saw/read it!?
  6. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    I didn't, what did it read?
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    The British and French had been fighting there for all the war, and knew what the situation was. The US soldiers just marched in there without knowing what the fuck they were doing. If they would've listened to the commanders that were already there, and dug in with the British and French, the war might've continued a bit longer, but in the end, I think a lot less US soldiers would've died.

    But really, how is seeing fresh troops throwing themselves to machine guns and dying a horrible death a morale boost? It was a giant meatgrinder, and while the soldiers who had been there for a longer time had seen terrible things (the effects of mustard gas coming to mind), seeing young, strong and fresh troops mindlessly walk to their certain death doesn't really seem like a morale boost to me. Still, I guess the knowledge of the US giving them needed support was a big relief.

    Also, how did the first tanks influence the war? I don't really remember a lot about them.

    Oh, and I really think we should get back on topic. We can probably discuss WWI in a separate topic. I mean, it deserves one anyway.
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  9. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Someone make world war 1 thread but lets get back to the wonders of the Netherlands.
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    I think the first (British) tanks used WW1 chased the Germans away from their trenches. Although they were quite slow and driving them was hell... they were proven to be quite effective...
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    Herring! Anyone around here who loves soused herring?
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    Well also at the time the French were having Mutinies in there Army and the man in command of the french told the Army that he wouldn't plan any more attacks intill the Americans and the Tanks come, but yes lets get back on topic.
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    Tulips,Wooden shoes,legan marijuana and no curtains 4 LAYIF!! Respect the Dutchmen.
  14. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    And that one Anne Frank chick.
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    She was German, but what ever.
  16. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Meant to add house to the end, its landmark there correct?
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    I think so.
  18. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    I wonder if it legal to get high in it?....actually that's kinda wrong of me to think that.
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    Yeah, I guess... Before I actually saw the house... I heard that there are all those Japanese tourists around that house... And that turned out to be true...
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    There were actually serious talks about the fucking tree Anne Frank was watching all the time. I mean, seriously? A real discussion over a dead tree?

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