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Actually that is false in the Netherlands after marijuana was legalized hard drug use actually went down. Most people do it because it's relaxing and won't move onto harder drugs.

And that is good and well, but the question remains whether the same will happen in the US if marijuana was legalized.

Only one way to find out.

Except that nobody wants to be members of that particular social experiment.

I find this very hard believe. On a totally different note the Liberal Party here in Canada has said it now supports marijuana legalization. legalization can provide a benefit to the government by increasing revenue. Especially Canada we could greatly benefit as we one of the world's largest producers of marijuana and exporters.

Except the shaw, he would love this experiment.

Do YOU want to be the test case of a social experiment?

No but I know many people who would. Also check the edit I put in on that post.

I think we all know alot of people who would jump for joy if weed was legalized.

Just to point out, the Netherlands isn't exactly the US. I'm gonna hazard a guess and say that the presence of hard drugs is slightly less, for example: last week, the busted a couple of guys trying to move $4,000,000 of cocaine in Philly. Somehow, I think this would be slightly bigger news in the Netherlands.

Legalization is a sticky mess for governments.
On one hand, if an influencial country like, say, the US legalized it, others may follow suit. The countries that do so would inevitably have to start competing to ensure that individuals buy from them, fufilling the revenue promises that legalization is suggested to have. Inevitably, some countries would have to lower taxes just to try to sell it at a reasonable price.
There is also the sticky issue of selling addicting products. While it is ok to call a, say, Ipod addicting, actual products that addict individuals are looked down on. And for good reason.

We already have the market to be successful half of all marijuana in the U.S. is of Canadian origin.

That is not particularly flattering for Canada imo. Being the source of illicit drugs into another country. Reminds me of the Opium Wars... bad memories...
In any case, you have the benefit of being ahead of the curb, but if other countries legalize, you may be out-produced.

While those massive amounts may not be transported here, hard drugs are still being produced in the Netherlands.
And yes, of course, the Netherlands are very different from the US, and it's hard to predict what would happen if marijuana was legalised there.

As for the experiment...well, just before starting a nuclear war, the US could make some huge underground vaults and make all of them a different social experiment...

And that's bad because? You do know you can just place tariffs on drugs right?

Like alchohol, cigarettes, etc.?

Do people look down on alchohol?(like wine)

Remember the last time the united states tried to ban Alcohol.....lol Prohibition.

Its bad because it would defeat the purpose of legalizing it. From what I see, the vast majority of people who want to legalize it, want to do so because of the money involved. If a competetive, international market sprang up and the governments had to start competing for the buisness, it would drive down the additional revenues and subsequently defeat the purpose of legalizing. Tariffs are import taxes. Taxes. The price goes up anyways.

Which is why people don't like them. I don't know if they teach US history in the Netherlands, but from what I learned researching the US, have you ever heard of the Prohibition? That was fun.
Look up 'historical temperence movements in the US'. It goes back nearly as far as the US itself. You CAN'T call that liking alcohol.
Remember that anti-drugs is huge in US schools and in other public places and arenas. Smoking has attracted alot of attention. Most health classes that I have heard of teach people not to smoke or use any such products.

Moderation is usually allowed, but again, look up 'historical temperance movements in the US' on google or something. It goes back a long way. That is part of the reason why alcohol is more accepted in Europe than in the US.

But if you put tariffs on marijuana you would not have to compete with any market outside of your country and you could thus control the price of the drug.

...I'm not from the Netherlands(which you have already said) I'm from Denmark...
I don't like your demeaning tone. I actually do know about American history, do know about Prohibition and do know about the Temperance League.(thanks to Victoria 2) The fact is that it simply didn't work. If people wanted alchohol they were going to get their hands on it, and there was nothing the government could do to stop them, just like they can't stop people from getting drugs.

Smoking is more unhealthy and addictive than Marijuana, and it's not like I'm saying that they should give it out to small children.

There were temperance movements in Europe as well, we just got over it and went to war instead.

So much for free trade. Bear in mind that tariffs are a touchy subject in the US. If another country is doing alot of buisness with you for a particular product like, say, maijuana, then a tariff that severly hampers their ability to sell their product to a large consumer base like the US population will be a very sour spot in relations.

Sorry, I keep getting you mixed up with another guy. I just post, I try not to factor in locationism.

Demeaning was not the intent. I blame the internet. Had I been able to put a tone to it, you could probably distern my intent easily.

Just because something is easily accessible doesn't make it any better for the society.
Alcohol makes drunks, who tend still to do stuff in their sober hours. That does not balence out all of the other problems, but it is something.
People who are high tend more to sit around do nothing and leech off of the system. Even if people don't care about the 'sit around and do nothing' part, they do care about the 'leech off the system' part. I cannot think of any country in which it would not gall people that they must contribute to a system that supports people who contribute nothing and have contributed nothing.

Technically speaking, its not the tabacco that addicts people.
And remember that people in many states are moving towards illegalizing smoking. They have moved steadily, banning it in public places and even some privet places.
True, for the sake of thinking you sane, I assumed that you were not intending to market it to children, but the fact of the matter is that it is there anyways. In spite of the fact that it is outlawed, more and more children in high, middle, and even as young as elementary school, admit to using the drug on a regular basis. In California, there has been a rash of children bringing marijuana-laced brownies to school. Some schools have attempted to ban brownies altogether as a result. Research shows that the developing mind is more suceptable to addicting properties, such as those in youngsters, which result in higher chances of heavy use.

Sounds like a wonderful alternative.

Yeah mabye that particular idea wouldn't work in the US at the current time.

I guess...

Well then. Moving on...

No, but it certainly makes people hypocrites when they ban one thing but accepts another more harmful substance.

Drunks/Alchoholics tend to drink everyday and most people get hangovers. You are not able to work properly with a hangover.

This statement is just plain wrong and offensive. I've done weed, but I also study and have a normal life. It's not like people who do drugs are high all the time. Most use it in the weekend just like alchohol and study the rest of the week.

Technically speaking, this is annoying.

Yes they have done this in Denmark as well, but this is to minimise second-hand smoking(or whatever it's called) and there's a big step from banning something in public places to completely illegalize it.

Which just prove that you can't stop it. You would of course need to be 18(or 21) to buy it just like alchohol.

"All say aye for the banning of brownies in public schools" "AYE!" (who is that stupid)

Yeah... I know