British government won't fund schools that teach creationism

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  1. Skyicewolf City States Godmod Patrol

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    It will never be a fact. The entire point is that Evolution happens over a period of time... We learned about evolution maybe a hundred years ago, at least, solidly. That's not enough time for us to actually observe it's effects.

    But there is PLENTY of proof about it, just go look at fossil records, and you can see that life has changed over time. Or look at humanity itself, our ascent from Homo Erectus to... well... Homo Sapien. Is that just... unexplainable?!
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    They shouldn't force you to learn it though. I mean if someone doesn't believe it they don't believe it.
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    They "force" you to learn about gravity don't they? Is that really any different? As you said, it's a theory. It doesn't have anything to do with belief. It's does however have tons to do with scientific evaluation and process.
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    It will always be a theory. THe point is it can never be proven as 100% fact. I'd still say 98% is good enough.
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    Well what you define as theory and what Science defines a theory are completely different according to science theory is:
    "The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence. Many scientific theories are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially. For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory), or that living things are not made of cells (cell theory), that matter is not composed of atoms, or that the surface of the Earth is not divided into solid plates that have moved over geological timescales (the theory of plate tectonics). One of the most useful properties of scientific theories is that they can be used to make predictions about natural events or phenomena that have not yet been observed."
    I must also point out that gravity is still a theory so yeah.
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    I didn't call him stupid, only the fact that he didn't believe in Evolution.(there is a difference)
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    How many times do I have to repeat myself. I don't think evolution is a fact yet, but a theory.
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    If something's a scientific theory, it means it's basically a proven fact. I think someone posted the difference between a normal and scientific theory here somewhere.
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    Look above my post dude.
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    Thank god. This is separation of state and religion. So yes I think everybody can agree that this is good news
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  11. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Wait is this for all Schools or Private or Public?
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    only public.
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    Im still a little iffy on this, although I think Kali would be better at explaining my view point on this. Although we can all agree that no one cares about Creationism correct?
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    Well then I will never believe it until it is 100% fact.
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    It's not that noone cares, it's that people understand it has virtually nothing to do with science.
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    Even as a religious believer I have to go with it has very little to do with Science and outdated.
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    Well then don't belive Gravity cause that is not 100% fact or the particle theory or most electrical ideas, and the layout of the solar system, so yeah you are ignorant and need to grow up and start to look at the facts!
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    Thank you so much fore writing this. I thought I will have to, and then explain every detail in post after post only to have it all devolve in to a response ''well this is what I BELIEVE''.

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    Forgot what the topic was about. lol
    I think they did a good thing so pip pip cheerio. They say this all the time right?
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    The fact that the British government is cutting funding to public schools that teach Creationism really gives me hope that not all is lost. Creationism is a faith-based, junk science. They have no evidence to back their theory. It lacks peer reviewed, sensible, and replicatable experiments that prove their theory. Basically they have a belief system that they're trying to pass off as scientific theory. And they don't really understand the difference between scientific theory and the more mundane use of the word theory. It shows when they start counter-claiming evolution as "just a theory".

    Actually I think the main people driving the whole Creationism thing know exactly that they're spouting garbage that doesn't hold up to scientific scrutiny. But they're also banking on the fact that most of their followers and proponents don't understand that. It's the same with the Intelligent Design folks. Although, to their credit, the ID people actually try to be a bit more scientific about their arguments. Sadly, most of their arguments are straw men or are put forth by people who really don't get it.

    Keep your religious beliefs to yourself and out of the public schools as a curriculum. If you want your children to be taught belief as science send them to a private school with that curriculum. Huzzah to the British government for putting their foot down on this.
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