Stand Together: The Gaming Community vs SOPA and PIPA

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by etorres21, Jan 19, 2012.

?

do u support the sopa and pipa?

yes 4 vote(s) 10.0%
no 36 vote(s) 90.0%
Page 3 of 5

  1. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

    Member Since:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Message Count:
    4,188
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Location:
    www.Twitter.com/d3adtrap
    Fair enough
    D3adtrap, Jan 21, 2012
    #41

  2. JosipBrozTito Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 1, 2011
    Message Count:
    316
    Likes Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    88
    Location:
    Slovenija
    This isn't a case of a cameraman not being able to support his family because of piracy. Its a case of a studio executive not being able to build a life size 24 carat gold statue of himself , instead he has to due with a 22 carat one.
    JosipBrozTito, Jan 21, 2012
    #42

  3. CoExIsTeNcE LeonTrotsky in Disguse

    Member Since:
    Feb 16, 2011
    Message Count:
    2,612
    Likes Received:
    255
    Trophy Points:
    133
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    But he'd sooner cut that cameraman's salary then build the 22 karat statue.
    CoExIsTeNcE, Jan 21, 2012
    #43

  4. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

    Member Since:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Message Count:
    3,949
    Likes Received:
    633
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Location:
    Tempe, Az
    Even so, what gives you the right to deprive him of his money? Are we to assume that we're all some sort of modern day Robin hoods?
    pedro3131, Jan 21, 2012
    #44

  5. Kalalification Guest

    Member Since:
    Message Count:
    0
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    @FeyBart's remark on the previous page
    Conservative in the context Pedro was using it has nothing to do with ideology. It's the opposite of 'generous' and essentially means 'lower than the median.'
    Kalalification, Jan 21, 2012
    #45

  6. JosipBrozTito Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 1, 2011
    Message Count:
    316
    Likes Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    88
    Location:
    Slovenija
    Stopping piracy wont stop greed.

    Him building a 24 carat statue of himself does.
    JosipBrozTito, Jan 21, 2012
    #46

  7. Kalalification Guest

    Member Since:
    Message Count:
    0
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I don't think you can use the ridiculousness of your strawman to justify the ridiculousness of your 'solution...'
    Kalalification, Jan 21, 2012
    #47

  8. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

    Member Since:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Message Count:
    3,949
    Likes Received:
    633
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Location:
    Tempe, Az
    So he should be penalized for being successful?
    pedro3131, Jan 21, 2012
    #48

  9. JosipBrozTito Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 1, 2011
    Message Count:
    316
    Likes Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    88
    Location:
    Slovenija
    It was an example to make a point. It wasn't fare of either.

    He should be penalized fore being a greedy fuck.
    JosipBrozTito, Jan 21, 2012
    #49

  10. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

    Member Since:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    9,153
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    In a cave,watching shadows (Plato reference)
    Wait Fey said that copyright infringement was legal, umm sorry Fey but it is illegal.
    Viking Socrates, Jan 21, 2012
    #50

  11. Kalalification Guest

    Member Since:
    Message Count:
    0
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What?

    EDIT: This was in response to the first part.
    Kalalification, Jan 21, 2012
    #51

  12. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

    Member Since:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    9,153
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    In a cave,watching shadows (Plato reference)
    Viking Socrates, Jan 21, 2012
    #52

  13. JosipBrozTito Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 1, 2011
    Message Count:
    316
    Likes Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    88
    Location:
    Slovenija
    I guess I phrased it wrong. It was an extreme example to make my point easier. Plus I think I saw it on South Park.
    JosipBrozTito, Jan 21, 2012
    #53

  14. Warburg Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 17, 2011
    Message Count:
    834
    Likes Received:
    258
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    United Federal Kingdoms of Scandinavia
    Just to clear this up:
    1. The laws of the US is not the laws of the world. While it might be illegal to share copyrighted material in the US, it's not illegal in ALL other countries.
    2. If I were to pirate something, I would (in theory) use a torrent because it's so much easier and faster than downloading from a site like MEGA. Also what Pedro said about them making money on it.
    3. Could those who say "the cameraman can't feed his family because he has lost his job because of piracy please give me some links? Otherwise you might just be pulling it out of your ass.
    Warburg, Jan 21, 2012
    #54

  15. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

    Member Since:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Message Count:
    3,949
    Likes Received:
    633
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Location:
    Tempe, Az
    It's all in the indictment I posted here and in the other thread. There's been between 120,000-135,000 lost jobs as a result of piracy in the movie industry alone
    pedro3131, Jan 21, 2012
    #55

  16. Warburg Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 17, 2011
    Message Count:
    834
    Likes Received:
    258
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    United Federal Kingdoms of Scandinavia
    I can't say I read that(I forgot about it, sorry), but aren't those figures in theory. What I mean is, wouldn't that be if every pirated movie/game/song would have been bought instead?
    Warburg, Jan 21, 2012
    #56

  17. Kalalification Guest

    Member Since:
    Message Count:
    0
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    While a lot of countries disagree on the particulars of intellectual property laws, virtually everyone but third world hellholes recognize piracy as a crime. And seriously, it is. It's theft, through and through, and to deny that is to delude yourself utterly.
    Kalalification, Jan 21, 2012
    #57

  18. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

    Member Since:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    9,153
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    In a cave,watching shadows (Plato reference)
    What Piracy being Theft, that is like impossible. Next you are going to tell me there is a World anti-piracy observatory.
    Viking Socrates, Jan 21, 2012
    #58

  19. JosipBrozTito Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 1, 2011
    Message Count:
    316
    Likes Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    88
    Location:
    Slovenija
    [IMG]
    JosipBrozTito, Jan 21, 2012
    #59
    Warburg likes this.

  20. Warburg Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 17, 2011
    Message Count:
    834
    Likes Received:
    258
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    United Federal Kingdoms of Scandinavia
    Canada? Ireland? Sweden?
    And look above for answer to the rest^^^^^^^^
    Warburg, Jan 21, 2012
    #60
Page 3 of 5

Share This Page