Failed US Constitutional Amendments

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  1. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    Why isn't it?
  2. Vassilli1942 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know why in my opinion it's a good idea.
  3. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    Then why did your OP say 'alienable'? Pretty sure that you meant 'unalienable'.

    In any case, while it looks good on the surface, elevating an individual's right to a clean environment to an Amendment would be suicide for the economy. No matter what buisness you are in, you produce SOME level of hazardous waste. Therefore either: A) The Amendment would tear the economy apart. or B) There would be so many exceptions to the Amendment's extent that it would just amount to a waste of time.

    While, yes, I believe that a clean environment is good, there must be balence.

    Also, btw: you all produce carbon dioxide and would be violating this right for everyone around you 24/7.

    Its not a Right right, but it is accepted in all the states of the US.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_ballot
    Politicians are not exactly forced to reveal what they vote [I can't find that anywhere] but they have to for the sake of transperacy. Knowing how they REALLY vote and such.
  4. Vassilli1942 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry about that, it is "unalienable". Also I do agree with you that there needs to be a balence.
  5. pottman Well-Known Member

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    Why didn't they let this one pass.
  6. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    My guess?
    1. Alot of religious politicians.
    2. Secularism doesn't mean that you can persecute a person for their religious background. Forbidding them to gain office would be a violation of their OTHER Rights.
    3. It was 1876. I doubt that people thought the same as they do now.
  7. pottman Well-Known Member

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    At least take away their funding.
  8. Vassilli1942 Well-Known Member

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    Really don't know the book dosen't say. I would go with what Imperial said and that more people were religious back in the day.
  9. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    That probably would still be considered to be oppressing someone's chance at office based on their religious views.
    And besides, depending on how influencial they are in their religion, people would probably just donate a tonne to them. I think that the current cap is something like a million a person. If the people felt that this person was like a messiah or something, they would probably donate quite a bit of their money, no matter the cost to them as individuals. So cutting their funding wouldn't be that affective.

    Even worse [depending on your view], the US could end up with voting along religious lines along with party lines.

    Speaking of elections, I heard you just got Ma Ying-jeou back.
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    Clearly we need to take another run at this one. Then people can shorten our name to just "Earth" instead of America. Though it would make it awkward to have to argue against internationalism and claim to be a "citizen of Earth."
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  12. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Yeah I think they did that US of Earth thing because that was around the time we annexed Hawaii. Which isn't exactly in America.
  13. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    The united states of Earth

    translation: All land is america now.
  14. pottman Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, because we can't afford to piss people off.
  15. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    I donno... I hear that the US isn't too happy.
    Do you guys have secret ballots?
  16. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Doesn't really shock me at all.
  17. pottman Well-Known Member

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    The other party wants Taiwanese Independence, which China and the US won't like. They rather have us keep the status quo, and we all know that.
  18. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    You guys have a majorically 2 party system, huh?
    I heard that Ma Ying-Jeou is considerably pro-China.
    Though the way my associates figure it, anyone elected to the presidency of Taiwan ultimately wouldn't want to be a provincial governor.
    And do you have a secret ballot over there?
  19. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Yeah for the status quo, and in your opinion would you want independence if it was at all possible.
  20. pottman Well-Known Member

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    Ma is pro-China and he's a proponent of "Eventual Reunification." But I doubt he and the KMT will go that route now.
    And, we do have secret ballots.

    Yeah, I'd go for it. But that's a wet dream, when we have two major powers breathing down our necks.

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