CAPITALISTISM STUPID, OR STUPID AND PSYCHOTIC?

If they work hard enough, like Romulus and I am assuming his siblings did, they will get into a good college and make something out of their life. Hard work and determination pays off.

Who says he wont donate some of his money to charity along the way. I am talking about when he dies bro. And when you are a dying man, you put your family first in your will.

It is not their fault that they are born into that situation. They just have to work harder. If they really want to achieve success, they will work harder and then maybe their children will have the easy life.

Ya, Johnny's children will have to work so hard to wait for their father to die. Oh wait, they probably wont have to even wait that long because he'll get them into powerful positions in his financial company.

He has the right to give the money to anybody he wants to because its his money. Many people keep on going simply for the sake of hoping that it will pay off and their kids and grandkids wont have to worry about their financial situation.

Who said I so not believe we should have universal health care? I can still be a capitalist and believe in universal healthcare.

Again, I believe healthcare should be free.[/quote]

I hope you don't fail. I was just saying, because, you know, "shit happens". Maybe I'm just too used to living here. This city is overcrowded, and it's very hard to find a job once you are a lawyer,medic, psychologist, etc. by your own.

Capitalism is.....

.... an economic systtem.

And is it one you agree with, or disagree with.

There are more chances in the USA, i'm sorry to hear that about Argentina though.

In my dreams I support a communist society. But in real world, that change would be too violent (in a sense of something totally different), it should be gradual. So, by now I'm sticking with capitalism; although I recognize it has flaws.

There's a lot of chances here I was talking of this damn city specially. Eventually you'll get a job, but not the next day of being graduated. Probably you will have to work some time without a wage, being an assistant or something like that. (Medicine is diferent,so yay!)

Which model of capitalism? you seem like a social market economy type of guy.

I wouldn't know to say, we don't have so many "classifications" here. But I support proteccionism if it's needed, welfare and social programs, State intervention. I definitely lean to the left, but I'm not a die hard leftist.

Edit: I skimmed a little on Wikipedia. You could say that yeah, I'm something like that.

I am still kind of neutral on the entire protectionism, while welfare im against because of the people getting addicted to government hand outs at tax paying expense to which I frankly don't want to go around paying my taxes so that some lazy bum can go get his welfare chick instead of working. If I wish to help someone I can easily just start a charity, although I wouldn't mind as much if I could choice to where my taxes go to, like say I support more defense I should be able to direct my taxes to defense instead of the government dictating which is the necessarily right thing to put it in, my money my choice. The only quote and quote social program i support is healthcare, that being said the rich should have a right to higher stander of health care.

Well, US is not exactly a country that needs a lot of proteccionism, so I understand your point. And about welfare, here there is a lot of people that take advantage of it, but I still think is good because there's people that do need it, although our actual goverment is using it in a "populist" way, which I don't support.
I think I said it in another post, but our best education (universiy level at leat, primary and secundary depends) and our best hospitals are both public. But I agree that if you have more money, and you want a different service, you should have that right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society

It's the first time I hear of them

No, they'll end up Middle Class. Right where they began. Romulus will not be rich, if that's what you mean. Even if he works his hardest and does everything right.

Donating to charity helps, but a few yams at Thanksgiving wont solve hunger. It's a small aid to a larger problem. Like when people give $10 to a Haiti Relief Program. It helps, it's just so small it hardly helps.

Of course that's the general thought, but it's hardly rational. Why is your family more deserving of wealth than someone else?

Why not just make the rich give up their wealth so that no children have to go hungry? Besides, people work plenty hard. There's just very little opportunity.

No, he has no right to such excessive wealth. Given how terrible financial companies are, which you say Johnny works in as an executive of some sort, they don't deserve what the millions they steal from the people.

You can throw up as many social programs as you like. There will still be super rich with everything, and super poor with nothing. It doesn't resolve the issue.

Dude, Kara, you seem very depressed.

"Millions they steal from people","Why not just make the rich give up their wealth so that no children have to go hungry?", Kara, quit making these statements, they are out of pure emotion and not fact.

If you are determined enough and work hard enough, anything is possible.

They tried harder in school, got a better education, and thus made something out of their life.

Now that is obsurd. If you made the money, you deserve to keep it.

Nonsense, there is plenty of opportunity.

He worked hard and earned it, therefore he has every right to his wealth.

Now you are just talking out of emotion and not out of fact at all.

And having super rich people is not gonna hurt. Newsflash: there is always gonna be poverty. No matter what economic system you have poverty will always exist. Nothing "resolves" the issue.

Perhaps embittered is a better word.

Naw man, like, go smoke a bowl and hit on some girls, live a little and save yourself before you become a cynic or something.

Under the right conditions, yes. But the American Dream is on its last legs. Unless your an absolute genius like Bill Gates or Steve Jobs it's very hard to get ahead. That is, unless your willing to exploit the system. Which is the norm of the super wealthy these days.

You think no one in the unemployment didn't try hard in school? Got a good education? You think the homeless family didn't try hard?

No, you deserve your fair share. By running a factory, you didn't make anything. Your workers made it all. You deserve a share, but you don't deserve the whole damn pie, giving the leftovers to the factorymen.

Financial companies never sweat or bleed. They just take advantage of the people who do sweat for them.

What are you talking about? It is ridiculous to deny the swindling and crafty actions of, say, Wall-street as just, "useless emotional talk".

Yes it does. Think about the sheer amount of wealth we could have if we broke down the Super Rich? With just top 1-5% wealthiest Americans, you could do SO much. Yet, I'm sure feeding the hungry is a much less priority when in compared to giving Paris Hilton a 3rd Mansion, right?

And I quote,

Although, I didn't think you'd actually flip flop that quickly.

Anyway, yes. There will always be a druggy who refuses to be helped. But that doesn't mean poverty cannot be treated. It could be kept down, and in regulation. Think of it as a problem like Asthma. Sure it'll always be there, but it can be contained.

No no no. I was just sick this morning is all. Had to stay home and shit.