What could be done in Syria

now we know that russia and china are going to leave a good picture of them selfs in history...

They need to secure their military interests.

That does not justify them arguably supporting a rogue dictator.

Russia and China are just following "The Prince", because that is so effective in modern society.

It's Russia what did you expect?

You make a good point.

Inserting Putin in the place of Russia would be most accurate actually.

Er it's not just Russia. We weren't exactly rushing to the UN to get rid of Mubarak, another 'rogue dictator'. The hypocrisy is infuriating! Stop believing that your state has the higher moral ground, they all act like each other - to maximise their power at the expense of others, whether that includes other states or civilians. Look at the very last conflict the US sought. It used a resolution that aimed to protect civilians and foster a ceasefire into regime change and massacres of civilians by the 'rebels', and ethnic cleansing so bad that a whole town was evacuated of black Africans, and black Africans all over Libya being branded as mercenaries and killed.

It was very bad for the blacks, many of them were actually mercenaries they owed Gaddafi favors some of them.

Holy shit i am so shocked at this, I would have never have seen this coming, its not like China and Russia have a shared interest in Syria.

They do have interests there.

And they probably vetoed it individually.

And this may be useful on this thread:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...n-on-Syria-which-Russia-and-China-vetoed.html

Huge sarcasm dude, should know that about me by now.

Can't believe he missed that sarcasm. But what I will say is that it's easy to point fingers at other countries but harder to take a look at your own. If you're so against propping up dictators as you're accusing Russia and China, why weren't you attacking the US for doing the exact same thing?
(In general.)

Because we're america its what we do, all nations prop up people who are going to follow there interest, its simple.

You say 'all nations' like it's an even playing field. The US is definitely the lead player and makes complaints against Russia and China not only full to the brim with hypocrisy, but also ridiculous. I presume you dislike the fact that nations are propped up (being a human with feelings)?

You aren't THAT important.

Hippocracy arguments about the US don't really go anywhere. They just keep insisting that they have amended their ways.

Just depends in the region, the U.S probs up many African dictators, and supports the Saudi arabian regime. its Hypocritical yes, but one can clearly see that the Al Assad regime is a regime that has been doing horrible crimes against its people but the west has lack of interest in keeping the regime afloat, while R/C do.

I doubt they have changed decades worth of hegemony in the space of a year.

Do as I say, not do as I do. Why should anyone give one solitary fuck about what the US thinks is right? When it has done far, far worse, and doubtless continues on that path?

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Decades worth of hegemony up to the Arab Spring. If their performance during the Arab Spring was anything to go by, hegemony is going to continue for a while yet.