Israel and Iran - Will we see air strikes soon?

Nukes are bad and people don't like other people who have them
want to be the only one's. Iran no nukes to you until you be nicer to people and
elect someone who doesn't openly hate israel.


Also is it a bad idea to let other countries have nukes?
would they be like "we have nukes america so give us money or we fire them at you!" or should we be like
"no nukes unless you our bro's" other country "F-you we do what we want!". a rock in a hard place huh guys?

It's not hard at all; no one should have nukes under any circumstance. The problem is that China, Russia and the US will never disarm because the others won't either.

So like update about the situation between the two assholes.

Iran called for negotiations about their nuclear program I believe.

Lol what a bunch of pussies, I mean oh good for them.

He also showed Iran's first nuclear fuel rod.

That's not surprising, I also think the nuclear program control group (what were they called again?) was getting worried.

As soon as we stop getting periodically invaded by every country that borders us, we will talk about disarmament. For now, they make a nice deterrent. But in the end, this really comes down to one thing, which is regional hegemony. Whine all you want about nukes, Palestine, or Israeli aggression, the end result is the same. Israel will either be the unopposed power in the Middle East, or Iran will exist on a opposite front with nuclear weapons. But here's the question.What is possibly to be gained by Iran having nuclear weapons?

Nothing, aside from it catering to silly sense of fairness. There is no possible reason to allow Iran to have nukes, and a regime like that shouldn't have nukes. They ally with the worst dictators, slaughter their people in streets, and support terrorist organizations. Even if you hate the Israeli regime, we already have nukes, so there is nothing that can be done. But despising a state's past decisions is no reason to allow a bunch of delusional Imam's play with weapons of mass destruction.

I'd much rather have Israel with all the nukes in the Middle East than any other Muslim dictatorship. I don't like the argument that "everybody has nukes or nobody does", because I doubt Israel would ever use nukes for anything other than a deterrent or a retaliation to being nuked itself. Iran, on the other hand, is a religious theocracy. They are indoctrinated to the point of actually being willing to nuke somebody. I'd much rather that Iran is disarmed sooner rather than later. Brainwashed Muslims are up for anything, just look at Chechnya.

Hmm nuclear Iran or nuclear Israel so hard to pick.......fuck I go with Egypt.

Guys I hate to tell you this, but if you are hoping for a world of sharing and forgiveness where everybody treats each other fairly and nobody people will agree to let other people have stuff because "its fair", I have news for you. Life is not fair."Fairness" or Israel having nukes should not determine if a theocracy with a leader who would not hesitate to launch a nuclear missile if they obtained one, should or should not have a nuclear missile. Common sense does.

Well, I certainly wasn't talking about fairness. I just think it's bat shit insane to allow any of these things to exist, so matter who holds them. Of course, Russia, France, the US, China and Israel are certainly capable enough to not use them, but I'd still rather see a world wide disarmament. However, it seems human nature will not allow this to happen.

I was talking about d3vil.

Ah. Never mind, then.

guy's if israel joins the war do you think any other big region players will take a whack at
Iran? you know like saudi arabia or some other middle eastern countries?

Saudi Arabia might do something, but they will most likely sit back and clap. Though it would be curious to see if the Shiite population of Saudi Arabia or Iraq does anything or just sits back.

I'd personally think that they would just sit back and see who'll come out on top. It seems like most countries in the area dislike both countries, so I assume it'll be a win-win situation for them. Trying to take advantage of the situation and invading Israel would be a terrible idea, seeing as they got their asses handed to them every time they tried doing anything, even without the US stepping in.

I've already mentioned US Secretary of Defence but it's now in a news article form.
http://www.aljazeera.com/video/americas/2012/02/20122170514625396.html

SHIT. We should've attacked them earlier! Arrrrrrgh! Now it'll be harder to justify attacking them!

Remember Iraq and their nuclear weapons? The absence of them didn't matter in the justification of the war.

That was under a guy who did not care about international relations and planned on attacking Iraq eventually, Obama is defiantly reluctant to go to war again and might be looking for a reason not to attack Iran.