Would the World Benefit More if the Ottoman Empire still Existed

And you don't think that didn't take away from stability?

A little, but it does not matter because on the whole the romans where tolerant of foreign traditions and customs as long as they didn't cause any trouble, and as history shows this policy seemed to be effective(plus if you caused trouble, a legion or two would show up and annihilate you.)

A legion or two would annihilate you even if you didn't cause trouble (well at least to outside kingship) though in terms of tolerance they (The Romans) where tolerant of most religions and customs and even brought alot of them into there own, although Greek had the biggest impact. However the only groups the Romans had a issue with was the entire Jews/Christian group.

I will have to get used to using a forum and while Debate.org has a forum I generally do not use it as much as others.

Unless they did not enter World War 1. I think it is possible, however it does look bad to not honor the agreements.

Even without entering world war 1, the rise of nationalism would have been a huge issue in the ottoman empire.

No, it does matter. It will always be a part of the stability, especially when crisis occurred.

True it does effect stability, but the fact remains theat rome was able survive longer then anyone else has, despite the vast ethinic groups and countless religions. You are arguing that an empire won't last long if it has diverse groups of people. Well Rome did it, many of the chinese dynasties did it, hell event the ottomans lasted for about 500 hundred years, thats a good life span for an empire.

Rome was a glorified banana republic.

The only reason Rome was so great was because the Ancient World was absolute shit.

I never argued that they wouldn't last long, I just said it didn't bring up a picture in my head of long-term stability.

Hmm, you gonna back this up with something or are you just going to simplfy an entire period of history?

@Melanthropist Ok I misunderstood you then. But still, any empire worth it's salt is going to have a diverse populous, and diversity will always eventually lead to conflict. Yes, a bunch of enthic groups could make things difficult, but as long as those groups feel that they are being treated fairly they won't cause trouble.

How does that make Rome any less great? The Roman Empire influences us even today in more ways and to a greater degree than I think you believe.

Depends on how you define "empire" and "lasted".

I think its a pretty big accomplishment to have a running water system 2,000 years before most towns and cities after Rome got running water.

If we had the Ottoman empire now it would be like Iraq in the sense of having a shitload of ethnicities in it and they would be pissed off if the other ethnic group would be the only rulers.

No, because regardles of how well the Ottomans treated the dhimmi, people generally don't like living as second-class citizens.

Now if the Byzantine Empire survived. . . that would be cool.

They were even worse when it came to persecution of minorities: mind you, they were at least open about it.

Sure sure. I would just like to see how the world would be different, not really for stability or anything.

It would certainly be a more developed world, both culturally and technologically. Byzantine ideals were behind both the Arabic golden age and the Renaissance.