He dies knowing he saved his comrades lifes. Ergo, not selfless. Yes. And you? What would be going through your head when you decide to casually jump on top of a live grenade?
What does he gain from junping on a live grenade and getting blown to smitherenes, That's the thing, I would not be thinking.
I already told you, pay attention. Somehow you not thinking in a situation where grenades are involved doesnt surprise me. Anyway, in that case, you either wont jump on the nade, or its an accident.
If you are not thinking of the effects it will have when you are jumping on it, which you most likely would not be, then you are not dying thinking about all the lives you just saved. If you had time to actually think about the repercussions would be of jumping on that grenade instead of just running away from it, you would not jump on it. It's a split second decision, you would not have time to think. You would get the satisfaction of knowing you did the right thing.
You have the satisfaction in your mind of thinking you did the right thing. Or if you purposely did it because you thought it was the wrong thing you get some form of twisted satisfaction that you killed somebody who was gonna kill somebody else.
I dont know, depends. Why would you do that? It doesnt take much thinking to know that the grenade will kill you, so unless youre suicidal, your natural reaction is to go the other way. Like I said, if you dont have time to think, you dont just jump on the grenade, you go the other way. Quite frankly I believe you are overstretching your idea, its not that good.
The Unknown, the future, the unpredictable, the place where anything can happen. Change is a great unknown that people fear. anything can happen, you can get that tingly feeling inside, but that would be put down by fear of anything bad.
Im having trouble seeing how that connects to anything we have been talking about. Elaborate, please.
There is no such thing as a selfless act. You cannot do something without wanting to do so. If you don't want to do something, you at least prefer it to the alternatives, ergo, you do want it.
It definitely does mean that. Fulfilling your own intentions is a selfish action, and you cannot knowingly perform an action without the intent to do so.
http://josefvstalin.com/threads/is-there-a-purely-selfless-act.6869/page-2#post-204482 My stance on that issue. Why not?
Why not? Because thats fucking stupid and Link just explained why, even if you decided to disagree. You wouldnt give your seat to your nemesis just because, if you would you would do it in order to make him happy and therefore knowing he's happy you get satisfaction from knowing you made someone happy.
All right, all right, I just see it as an externality, that's all. For example, when people come across a disaster (such as a crashed bus) and decide to attempt to help the victims, I don't think very many are actually motivated by any possible future good feelings at all. I don't even think that it would even enter their mind. Not one bit. And I feel that if you aren't motivated at all by any good feelings you might get afterward, then the act itself is purely selfless. I also don't think that any cursing or belittling is going to change my belief.
