North versus South

There's also another good movie called Gettysburg made by the same people. You can watch the hole movie on youtube. here's a clip. Also that clip from the other movie about the irishmen is the same as my avatar pic.

What happened to the rest of this?

The rest of what?

I could of sworn there was more to page 7. Maybe I am confusing this with the atomic bomb thread.

I think you are. This thread is only this long because it ended with me showing you clips from that movie.

OK this is a little off topic but I already think thats happened already. Yesterday in my foundations of american history we were talking about the Emancipation Proclamation and its importance. First of all the Proclamation had no legal standing and didn't really end slavery but Lincoln was a very smart man by writing this. First of all the Proclamtion only talks about ending slavery in the states that are in rebellion, not the states that had slavery that remained in the union. This was a good idea because Lincoln feared that the boarder states mite join the CSA. Also my Professor said by changing the war goal from preserving the Union to freeing the slaves really put Great Britian in a hard stop because slavery was ended in Great Britian in the 1830s. This means that if Great Britian sent troops to help the CSA they would be fighting for slavery which wouldn't go over so well with the citizens of Great Britian.

I really don't think Great Britian would of but it's always a good idea to make sure they don't.

They were actually seriously considering it. From what I heard, if the South was able to win the battle of Gettysburg, the British would have more than likely joined. This would show that the Confederacy was able to not only keep itself afloat but bring it to the enemy as well. The South losing Gettysburg all but destroyed any chance the British would join because this showed that they were more than likely not capable of winning the war.

wait was there a double post and the mods didn't catch it or did someone delete?

I believe that even if the south did win, Slaverey would have ended. It would have been much later but it would in fact have ended one way or another. Im not racists or biased in any way. But too me the southern confederacy where only defending their people and their way of life. Slavery is a sick thing, but the south is not entirely to blame at all. Both sides where equally wrong and right.

I just realized that I did that . Sorry about that I will make sure it doesn't happan again.

Good boy, *tosses a treat at you*

Thanks *eat treat*

If the South had denounced slavery, maybe did there own Emancipation Proclamation, before Lincoln issued it, then there was no problem in Britain for joining the war, with the moral problems being eliminated.

Slavery waas the whole reason they seceded.

naw man! It was all about states' rights! they weren't even racist!

Yeah man, it was about states rights to have slaves, completely different.

But if to ensure their sovereignty as a nation, they would have to win the war. Some in the south contemplated actually renouncing slavery, so as to take the moral high ground over the north, and possibly bring in foreign aid. Yes, slavery was the reason they seceded, but they could just as easily had renounced slavery, as their goal was to become a separate nation. An example of this is when Lincoln changed the purpose of the war from reuniting the Union to reuniting the Union and freeing the slaves when he issued the Emancipation Proclamation.