Joseph Kony 2012 - Stop at Nothing.

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  1. LampRevolt Well-Known Member

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    https://s3.amazonaws.com/kony2012/watch_the_movie.html

    This is incredibly important for all the wealthy internet users like you out there. It is quite possibly the point of the internet and you should really really watch the video and see for yourself.

    Okay because we've all ready had one person jump to conclusions and ignore this I figure I should give more of an explanation so I might save a few of you derpy lemmings from jumping off the cliff of ignorance.

    www.kony2012.com is a site dedicated to making known the worlds most notorious and despicable war criminal. Through the 30 minute video above it explains the plan that by the end of 2012 YOU can help get Kony arrested , and maybe help save the lives of thousands of children in central Africa.
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    We've already discussed this. Obama signed an agreement to help 'disarm' the child soldiers in Uganda under Kony's leadership.
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    Clearly you didn't watch the video. That comes up. The point is related but try to keep up k?
  4. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    What is it with you and always coming off so contemptuous when anyone brings up a social movement? Anyways, the idea now is to "make Kony famous" in order to keep the public, and in turn the government, committed to the cause.
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    We are having a thing about this in our school.
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    I am going to an NDP all candidates debate on Sunday. I will definitely be bringing this up with them.
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    I'll be participating in the April 20th Los Angeles event, to stop monsters like this.
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  9. ComradeLer Proud Anti-Patriot

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    Hey I know we have murdered hundreds of millions of people, most of our consumer goods come from child slave labor and we regularly put into place, and back up genocidial dictatorships - BUT THERE IS THIS GUY CALLED KONY, AND HE IS A REAL BASTARD!

    The fact is, we in the west are entirely responsible for this happening. And by staging a military intervention, which this 'Invisible children' movement is supporting, we are just going to make this shitstorm even worse - Just think about what happened every other time we did this. White man's burden, anybody?

    @ Sairue - That article is interesting. For those who TL;DR, it turns out the group that Invisible children is funding, and arming, looks to be pretty much just as bad.


    Edit: It turns out the Ugandan army, the main opposition to LRA and the group funded by invisible children has been committing mass rape and genocide -
    http://articles.cnn.com/2010-06-03/...rmy-luis-moreno-ocampo-war-crimes?_s=PM:WORLD

    http://www.afriquejet.com/news/africa-news/uganda-army-guilty-of-crimes-against-humanity--ai,-uhrc-reports-2008111716187.html

    Also -

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-PnDZmngAhM/Sa_KBGNySiI/AAAAAAAAAJY/uBOfiAysghs/s1600-h/IMG_2941.JPG
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    I'm looking for proof or perhaps numbers of the effected but I'm just not seeing them in those links. While I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that man uneducated and ill disciplined soldiers probably are causing a lot of damage , comparing them to the LRA is a little bit extreme. While I'm certainly not giving any money to invisible children the main point of this video is to raise awareness to the world at large about what is happening in the region so that we might actually help. That is not evil.
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  11. ComradeLer Proud Anti-Patriot

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    As I've said before, I hate Kony - I hope he gets what he deserves. But Jingoism, and military intervention are no way to fix this problem. Every other time we have tried in this in the past, it just fucked things up worse.
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    Yeah maybe in the ideal universe full of butterflys and rainbows if you just let dangerous militants groups run around your country kidnapping your children then making them murder their parents and mutilate their friends it would just resolve itself with the all consuming power of love.
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    The entire reason this is happening right now is because of us taking military intervention, and attempting to 'Save them' back in the 1800's. More modern examples of this sort of mindset are Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Somalia. Any military intervention against the LRA is a bandaid solution, at best. To fix this problem militarily, it would take an invasion of the whole region, if not all of africa, and a redrawing of all of the borders to prevent this from happening again. No, letting it happen is not 'Right' - But nether is intervening militarily (Which will probably cost even more lives, in the long run). This is just one of those instances, in my opinion, where there is no right, or correct option.
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    I don't think there's a 'right' option I think there's a 'better' option. Oh and your not really using uneducated slavers and colonists from 200 years ago as your argument for why we can't intervene right.

    This is more of a thing for the U.N. to do if they were useful in any way. It wouldn't even require that many men to make the difference in taking down the LRA it's not a particularly well trained or well armed movement.
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    It's a similar comparison.
    I feel sick with myself arguing what I am. In the end, I don't believe what I am arguing here is right either - Merely that it is the better option. I don't consider anybody here who supports intervention to be wrong morally, or to not have good intentions.

    I apologize for my hostility in my earlier post.
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  16. LampRevolt Well-Known Member

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    Even if this doesn't change anything in the end I want my generation to at least TRY to give a shit about something for once in their lives.

    Y'know?
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  17. ComradeLer Proud Anti-Patriot

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    I get what you mean. Part of me wants to be happy that all of these people (Specifically teenagers/younger people) are giving a damn about something like this.

    To say I'm entirely solid in the beliefs I have expressed in this thread would be a lie, also.
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    Yeah. Like preppy yuppy Americans who wear scarfs are going to do anything about Kony. This video has failed to influence me, this has actually made me irritated. They're not going to "arrest" Kony. They're going to brutally murder him. Both sides have blood on their hands here. Those posters are using the completely wrong colors, they're blue and red, and ugly as fuck. I don't want my public areas covered in these ugly posters, you no good vigilantes and vandals.

    He uses a Skrillex song in his documentary. Absolutely sickening.
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  19. ComradeLer Proud Anti-Patriot

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    I am forced to admit partial agreement to toast's post. Or at least this part -
  20. LampRevolt Well-Known Member

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    Killing him would be the best thing we could do to him. I wouldn't give him the peace of death.
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