Afghanistan Outrage

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by General Mosh, Mar 11, 2012.

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  1. TheKoreanPoet Well-Known Member

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    This is vile. No doubt that this guy will either get the death penalty or life in prison. I just hope Afghanistan doesn't get him. He deserves a fair trial regardless of his actions.
    TheKoreanPoet, Mar 11, 2012
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  2. ComradeLer Proud Anti-Patriot

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    Considering that 9 million Afghan civilians have died so far, this is hardly new. Happens every week. I'd be surprised if he got 1-2 years jail at most.
    ComradeLer, Mar 11, 2012
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    I somehow doubt that number, but I actually think they may execute him. He did go off the reservation, and the growing tension in the region would make it preferable, if not popular, for the US military to execute him.
    LeonTrotsky, Mar 11, 2012
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  4. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Wow your crazy. This doesn't happen every week. Civilians are killed by their own side every week. The reason this is so surprising and appalling is that it was a trained soldier commiting cold blooded massacre. And I can draw parallels between this and what happened with some villages in Vietnam.
    General Mosh, Mar 11, 2012
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  5. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    I think the point he made was that most people being tried for capital cases have some sort of mental illness, which is a very accurate statement.

    9 Million is an incredibly high and bloated figure considering there's only 30,000,000 people in Afghan, and Most estimates have the civillian casualties at under 100k.... Even if you took your number at face value, collateral damage is different from a single service member going out into a town and systematically murdering men women and children and then covering their bodies in a blanket and trying to burn them...
    pedro3131, Mar 11, 2012
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  6. Chelsea366 Retired Moderator

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    It very much is an extreme act. Especially when men, women and children are murdered in their homes...
    Chelsea366, Mar 11, 2012
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  7. ComradeLer Proud Anti-Patriot

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    I think what Kara meant was that this is a common occurrence in the world, and even more so in military-occupied country. While the act of murdering people is extreme, it isn't an uncommon thing to have happened, given our world being the way it is.
    ComradeLer, Mar 11, 2012
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  8. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    No your right, its not uncommon. The uncommon part is that this is a TRAINED western soldier. They are not supposed to do this, and it is shocking and the day it starts being treated as "normal" and "common" is the day I kill myself because that kind of world would be hundreds of times worse than ours.
    General Mosh, Mar 12, 2012
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    It's not common, it's just not uncommon. Sure it's extreme for a soldier to shoot people, but shit like this happens all the time everywhere. Not always killings, but like those soldiers who were pissing on dead bodies a while back. Before that, the soldiers who planted a grenade on a guy and pretend to catch him before going, "LOL JK BRO".

    Hell, the Gabriela Giffords was just as bad (in terms of body count) as this one.
    Karakoran, Mar 12, 2012
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    He won't be trialed. Probably stays in custody for three months for trial to begin and they just let him go like all of previous fuckheads before. Oh and it's far from individual case, a few months ago a Marine platoon went in and slaughtered the entire neighbourhood.

    D3adtrap, Mar 12, 2012
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    The incident he's talking about happened in Iraq in 2006. The guy was sentenced a few months ago... Way to do your research AA....

    Also there are competing reports, if you read any of the articles they have multiple eyewitness reports where some say it was one person and others say it was multiple people with helicopters and flares. This is consistent with what the US is saying about sending a QRF team out to figure what the hell is going on, not consistent with the AA narative.

    One of the points he does raise is about alcohol use. US forces aren't allowed to imbibe alcohol for the entirety of their deployments, this covers not just the time their overseas, but the time their training to go overseas, and when they get their little vacation to go home for a few weeks in the middle of it. Obviously some people find ways around this, but I'd be interested to know the potential role alcohol had on the incident, and how that's going to affect future US policy to potentially help prevent stuff like this from happening in the future.
    pedro3131, Mar 12, 2012
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  12. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    The point still stands
    D3adtrap, Mar 12, 2012
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    The point was wrong. This should not be brushed off as "just another incident" but should be thoroughly investigated. And yes, this guy will get a trial and be convicted. And while hes waiting for that trial he will spend his time at Leavenworth. They will not let him off.
    General Mosh, Mar 12, 2012
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    Riiight...
    D3adtrap, Mar 12, 2012
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    the perprtrators of the my lai massacre only got 3 years of house arrest.
    for those who dont know what the my lai massacre is, it was the vitenam war mass murder of between 347 and 504 unarmed civilians on March 16, 1968.
    bender, Mar 12, 2012
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  16. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    Indeed. I'd like to hear a single case where justice was actually served for a change...
    D3adtrap, Mar 12, 2012
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    indeed.
    bender, Mar 12, 2012
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  18. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    That includes torture, a violation against human rights. A method used by rogue states...
    D3adtrap, Mar 12, 2012
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  19. LampRevolt Well-Known Member

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    "Last time I paid my taxes I was just so hoping that my money would go towards the wanton slaughter of innocent women and children in Afghanistan."

    I love you Amazing Atheist.
    LampRevolt, Mar 12, 2012
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    Vassilli1942, Mar 12, 2012
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