Josef Stalin Declassified

Well, yes, I was born after Stalin died (I'm not that old, alright buddy?) and all I've seen discussions of is absolute garbage, post Cold War stuff, or just comparative statistics which make no point and are only for the purposes of saying "Well, that guy is inherently evil, but this fucker killed more!"

I don't want to be angry at this for no reason, so, I'm not watching it.

I don't get it. Are you still talking about Stalin? What did Churchill do wrong? Explain.

You honestly think the UK and the Russians were on a good standing after WW2? The only reason the UK were willing to co-operate with the Russians in the first place was to relieve pressure from bombing raids. We quite literally used the USSR. As for a military and political alliance, that was nothing but a scrap of paper. There were high tensions between the UK and the USSR after WW2 and they were far from being allies.

Churchill? A "smart mad man"? Why is he a "mad man"? I don't see anything mad about him. Perhaps a very lazy smart man.

How was Operation Unthinkable mad in any way? The idea of another war against the Russians was all to real following world war two. And they simply wanted to be prepared for the worst.

Also, do you realize that you are comparing The Holodomor to Operation Unthinkable in an attempt to make the former seem not as bad?

D3adtrap, why are you so obsessed with the USSR after they tried to rape Finland?

@D3adtrap
By my understanding Operation Unthinkable was concieved to be implemented in the event of Soviet takeover of their captured territories. But you're correct, following the conclusion of the war, Soviet Forces outnumbered western allied forces three to one. The plan relied on a quick surprise attack as well as measures to defend the British Isles. But as unfeasible as it was, it does not justify the holodomor and definitely does not equivocate Churchill to Stalin.

And when you studied the Soviet Union and discovered that they are not the buggy man that they seem to be to everyone else, were you convinced by somebody telling you that the holodomor was okay because churchill drew up an unfeasibe military plan? No? Then why are you doing it now?

Stalin was a criminal. He was a mass genocider, even more than Hitler. He made himself look as though he was a hero to the Russian people when in fact he was the opposite.

This just gets better than better.

Stalin did not commit genocide. Case closed. I don't even know why I'm arguing with a 13 year old American kid who thinks that "genocider" is a word.

I don't give a damn about the famine honestly. I just wonder why you brought Churchill and Operation Unthinkable into this.

Lots of people tend to think that way, but I notice all too often people shitting all over the Communism and the Soviets and not doing so much as take half of an hour to read about it and learn what it is. Instead, they follow through with whatever is patriotic and humble of them to a particular allegiance.

Prime example?

Actually Genocider is a word, but not in the way I used it. Yes, Stalin commited genocide. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_did_Stalin_kill
http://www.enotes.com/stalin-joseph-reference/stalin-joseph
This was even on the History Channel. Plus you weren't even arguing with me on this thread.

lol

Stalin didn't commit genocide. He killed a lot of people, but he didn't commit genocide.

The History Channel is not a real source.

Stalin did commit genocide. When you cause Ukraine's famine that is considered genocide.