Afghanistan Outrage

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by General Mosh, Mar 11, 2012.

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  1. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    D3adtrap, Mar 13, 2012
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    And let me guess he only gets a slap on his wist.
    Viking Socrates, Mar 13, 2012
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  3. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    No way, that is an assault.
    D3adtrap, Mar 13, 2012
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    Sadly the Haditha guy basically got off with a "hefty" slap on the wrist. This guys crime seems of a greater magnitude, but we don't know enough about mitigating factors or anything so it's going to be awhile before we see a resolution.
    pedro3131, Mar 13, 2012
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    Pedro's such a party pooper
    D3adtrap, Mar 13, 2012
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  6. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    As much as we want swift justice, often swift justice isn't really just in nature. The Haditha guy committed the crime in 2006, and was only sentenced this February. I'm not sure if the military judicial system works the same way as the civilian one, but in the civilian sector capital cases often take years to decide.
    pedro3131, Mar 13, 2012
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  7. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    The military will probably do it faster, and his case will probably be heard soon because of the massive publicity surrounding it. As well as the fact that in the military, there is no jury or judge, just a tribunal of three high ranking officers.
    General Mosh, Mar 13, 2012
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    I'm glad someone mentioned Vietnam. This stuff is like the US military's modus operandi. Not saying it was ordered or encouraged, but I'd be truly surprised if he gets more than a few years for this. MAYBE because of the publicity it will be a little harsher, but probably not because most people are just going to forget this in a week or so anyways.
    shlacka, Mar 14, 2012
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  9. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    He will get life. Anyone who does this will always get life. I mentioned Veitnam because this shit happened there, not because it was a precedent for what happened. Plus, there are a lot of witnesses to the massacre.
    General Mosh, Mar 14, 2012
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    I meant how Bender and D3adtrap mentioned Vietnam, as well as how the soldiers got off with incredibly light sentences.
    shlacka, Mar 14, 2012
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    General Mosh, Mar 15, 2012
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    This man commited a terrible wrong, but I don't believe he should be killed for it.
    GeneralofCarthage, Mar 18, 2012
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    Right making him rot in prison for the rest of his life with the knowledge that he killed innocent people is much more effective punishment then just killing him. He can't learn anything if he's dead.
    PopePnwer, Mar 18, 2012
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    That's what modus operandi means. By saying that you're implying it is the intention and goal of the US military not to engage in armed conflict but to go on mass killing sprees of unarmed civillians....

    On Mai Lai, the original sentence was much harsher but after public back cry Nixon decided to pardon the guy. It's interesting to me that amist all that anti-war protest, something like 75% of Americans didn't think the guy responsible for Mai Lai deserved to be punished for it.
    pedro3131, Mar 18, 2012
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  15. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

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    And plus, you are commiting the same thing the person did. You are no better if you do that.
    GeneralofCarthage, Mar 18, 2012
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    Not really, Robert Bales isn't 16 innocent people and they wouldn't be killing him for no reason.
    PopePnwer, Mar 18, 2012
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    You aren't better if you kill him. It is essentially saying, I am going to steal something from you because you stole from me. Are you sensing the hypocrisy?
    GeneralofCarthage, Mar 18, 2012
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    General Mosh, Mar 18, 2012
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    Which is fine and what I want for every murderer.
    GeneralofCarthage, Mar 18, 2012
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  20. PopePnwer Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I'm pretty anti-death penalty. I'm just saying that killing him and him killing 16 innocent people isn't even close to the same thing.
    PopePnwer, Mar 18, 2012
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