The US Afghanistan War was in response to 9/11. Not exactly...

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  1. D3VIL Well-Known Member

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    I've just stumbled upon something which was unknown to me and I found it an astounding revelation. Not only were there plans for an attack on Afghanistan, but they were expected to be signed by US President Bush only two days before the September 11th terrorist attacks.
    In addition, just 7 days after the attack:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4587368/#.T2afCdnp7Aw
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1550366.stm
    D3VIL, Mar 18, 2012
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    So nothing would have changed and we would be fighting in Afghanistan regardless.
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  3. D3VIL Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Why isn't this common knowledge? For one I think it would hamper the conspiracy theorists a bit - there would've been an invasion of Afghanistan regardless. If this doesn't switch some lights on in peoples' heads I don't know what will!
    D3VIL, Mar 18, 2012
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    Well let's see, Al-qaeda was also responsible for the Kenya and Tanzinia embassy bombings in the 90s and the USS Cole attacks in the early 2000s so units had been training and planning for an attack all throughout the 90s. There was actually a point in either 98 or 99 when we had a team ready to launch a raid against him but Clinton opted to go with a drone strike which wound up missing the target because we didn't have anyone on the ground to confirm his location.

    All the literature I've read has indicated that we didn't take them very seriously until 9/11. Most of the defense community had been pushing for stronger actions, but the president and congress were kind of lagging. Nether of the articles really provides any proof that Bush had any intention of signing this. One even said that "Officials did not believe that Bush had had the opportunity to closely review the document ".

    Something you have to consider was that it was just a plan, and that every military has a whole department who's entire job is to make plans. I'm sure we have a plan drafted in the event China invades, but that doesn't mean we're about to use it.
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  5. D3VIL Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately this was addressed in the sources.
    So we can safely conclude that it was likely to happen.
    D3VIL, Mar 19, 2012
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    Does anyone know that Afghanistan has a shit load of copper. We allowed the Chinesee to mine that copper, Could've have been to keep diplomatic peace or to pay off debt but we wouldve attacked them any ways, But Who Knows these are just my conclusion on why were fighing undeclared wars and un winnable wars.(Getting of topic) Also did U know that we were running War Games on 9/11 and was warned countless times before 2001 that this could happen. Funny thing is 9/11 reamains were thrown in a junkyard in Brazil, Yet we couldve investigated them for Dynimate, and stuff like that. (9/11 was a way to get the American People on the side to go to war) This is un folding know with the gas Prices, They'll blame Iran then go to war with them for no apparent reason. That will turn into the war of the ages.
    TRP128499, Mar 19, 2012
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    Conspiracies man....they're everywhere!
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    Yep
    TRP128499, Mar 19, 2012
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  9. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Funny, because Obama is the one trying to be the mediator and prevent war with Iran.
    slydessertfox, Mar 19, 2012
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    Corupption, It's election year Rebublicans will find some way or some how to win and get in. They are all pro war(except Ron Paul), Mitt Rommey Said He'll attack Iran year one Santorum already said he would as well. Watch it Sly, America will be willing to go to War because of 7$ gas prices.
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  11. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Yes but the problem is, Obama will stay in office. Mitt Romney can't even convince his party that he's the best person in the Republican field.
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    Everything you say is true and not denying it. I was giving what should I say references earlier.
    TRP128499, Mar 19, 2012
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  13. Achtung Kommunisten! Well-Known Member

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    I imagine those arseholes will claim it means that Bush knew about 9/11 in advance.
    Achtung Kommunisten!, Mar 20, 2012
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    I thought about that possibility, but I hope they would see that he was expected to sign it before 9/11. So why have 9/11? The 9/11 conspiracy people make me sad because a) they don't really comprehend that things leak, a lot; b) on leaking it would mean execution for Bush and the plotters; c) Bush didn't need 9/11 to do what he did. I mean, the media convinced the public that Hussein was linked to 9/11. If they can do that they can do anything.
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    He knew, or should I say warned years before hand.
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    The hussein thing was also because aghanistan and pakistan both said that he had nukes. The U.S didn't have any agents on the
    ground and trusted their incorrect info. When hussein said "NO" it only fueled our fears which led to the attack. This seems like it may become
    VERY confusing for me later.
    3man75, Mar 21, 2012
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    You also know that we(America) funded Hussein regime during the Iran-Iraq war, we gave them weapons and bombs they eventually used on his own people. We funded them also to Iran because of the 1979COUP they did agianst the Shaw we put in there in 1953's COUP.
    TRP128499, Mar 21, 2012
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    Small correction, the Shah of Iran. You're entirely correct. The US launched a coup against the democratically elected government and replaced it with a monarchy. The US have either instigated or aided so many coups it's not even funny. And yes, I'm pretty sure the US, the UK, & France (and others) all helped Saddam's chemical development programmes. I'm pretty sure the US helped Pakistan get nuclear weapons, the UK helped Israel.
    D3VIL, Mar 21, 2012
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    US helped Pakistan because USSR helped India get there nukes. As well America and the UK funded Israel , Iran and many more.
    TRP128499, Mar 21, 2012
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    very sorry...stalin
    We gave Stalin a bunch of fricking war amterial for his fight against Nazi germany why? cause we were freinds!
    Its like brother fights with brother and then one turns and tries to make the whole world his personel factory. Same thing with
    Iraq we helped them and Iran can finally simmer down.

    THEN Hussein was like no revolting in my country damn it! an his milatary found some US weapons
    and used them. funny thing about giving iraq weapons those were all WW2 weaponry but we gave Al-quida
    Stingers lol. I guess religious fanatics are more stable than Dictadors.
    3man75, Mar 21, 2012
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