The Golden Age of the Ottoman Empire

Well, I suppose I was wrong...lol

Well, they still had the most powerful walls in the world. And the Ottomans still had some pretty awesome military victories.

Question mark?

Do you know what a Pyrrhic victory is? Or are you questioning the legitimacy of his statement?

I know what a Pyyrhic Victory is. I just don't know what battle he is talking about and just want to know what it was.

Oh cool yeah I am curious too

(on a seperate note I think I remember a video where stalin had one in total war and he was like "wtf is that?" noob.)

Oh yeah I remember how badly he butchered the pronunciation as well. I think it was in the beginning of his Shogun 2 lets play.

The Byzantine-Persian war. The cost was so heavy it allowed the Muslims to take North Africa and the Middle East, and it also marked the end of Zoroastrianism in Persia.

Yay! You made a thread about my favorite empire! Go Ottomans! Even though I am Catholic lol. The Ottomans were purely badass because they fought in WWI and ALMOST beat the British in the Middle Eastern front. Yes, the Ottomans did destroy a weakened Byzantine Empire but that doesn't take from the fact that they were totally badass. They almost caused the destruction of the Habsurgs (I hate the Habsurgs). Actually the Ottomans were pretty tolerant of Catholics, Jews, and people of other faiths. They were actually one of the most tolerant groups of the Seljuks. The Ottomans were almost wiped out due to the Mongols. I actually think if the Ottomans had not been destroyed, the Middle East might not be in the state it is in right now. The Ottomans were simply the greatest empire ever. Imagine if the Ottomans had won the Battle of Vienna in 1529. When the Ottomans lost that battle it made me loathe Habsurg Austria. The Ottomans actually teamed up with Catholics in France to defeat the Habsurgs but they lost. The Ottomans nearly had the Russians on their knees. The Crimean Khanate was badass too! They sacked Moscow! The Germans in WWII didn't even win in Moscow! In short the Ottomans were the greatest empire EVER! Imagine if Mehmet II hadn't of died in his invasion into Southern Italy.

Unless you were an Armenian.

That was in the later years of the Empire.

So? They still did it. It doesn't matter when. The point is saying the Ottomans were tolerant is wrong. Most empires of the time weren't.

Yes, they were mostly tolerant. Plus I said the Ottomans were tolerant towards Christians, Jews, and people of other religions. You left out the main point of the quote.

Armenians are Christians. Same with the Greeks. They also oppressed the other peoples in the Balkans who were Christians. To promote the Islamic ones. The only reason they tolerated the Jews is because there were so few of them that they were no threat.

The Roman Empire was more awesome, ALexander's Empire was more awesome, and the British Empire was much, much larger. The Ottoman Empire was a great empire don't get me wrong. But they were far from the greatest. Also, how does anyone hate the Hapsburgs?!

Actually the Ottomans were more tolerant of Christians than the other Muslim empires at that time.

No. The Hapsburgs are stupid.

One, that's because most of those empires didn't have very many Christians to subjugate. Two, that doesn't make them tolerant. It just makes them more tolerant. It's like saying America in the 60's was tolerant of black people just because the Confederacy was so much worse then them about it.

The Ottomans were very tolerant.

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/006984.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_Judaism_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100826204938AAEvHd3

http://www.globaled.org/nyworld/materials/ottoman/turkish.html

I just gave you FOUR sites proving my point yet you haven't provided a single handful of evidence.

http://www.armenian-genocide.org/genocide.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_Genocide

http://www.enotes.com/topic/Assyrian_Genocide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide

http://www.cwvhr.org/web/index.php?...ocide&catid=37:genocides-factsheets&Itemid=65
There I gave you six. Happy?

I would assume Ottomans were tolerant towards when they had a strong powerful empire, though when it started to collapse you had the blame shift on the other population centers. Though I'll be honest I know very little of the Ottomans, so I have to do some research on them.

As I stated before, the Ottoman Empire was tolerant until the end of the regime.
These really don't have much to do with the religion of the populace especially the Armenian Genocide. It would have said in the summary at the top of the Wiki page.