Kony 2012- Epic Failure?

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Has the Kony 2012 campaign failed?

Poll closed Dec 31, 2012.
Yes. 35 vote(s) 67.3%
Kinda. 13 vote(s) 25.0%
Not really. 4 vote(s) 7.7%
  1. Toast Well-Known Member

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    It is not the rich man's burden to help anybody. Similarly so with anybody else. Helping people just because they are humans is absurd and is only preached by reds.
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    Helping people because they are humans is the moral choice. But some people forfeit their human status, such as mass rapists, terrorists, murderers. I'm not against the death penalty or anything, but what I find absurd is that us fucking Americans sit at home and watch people massacred on the TV and we think, oh they will just help themselves. Well, its fucking impossible to help yourselves when the most powerful country in the world turns its back on you. It is the burden of the rich to help the poor, because if they don't then they're no better than the African warlords and dictators.
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    Nobody has to help anybody.
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    No the religious seem to have this fetish for "saving" every body.
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    I didn't say HAS to. But you have a moral obligation to help. And if you have the means to help, then you should.
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    Yeah, how dare they try to keep people out of hell!
    Think of it from their perspective first.
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    By what standards is KONY 2012 fail? Literally whole internet knows about it and they got a ton of money from campaign. Because one does not like it, it has nothing to do with movement being a failure.
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    Thats the worst piece of advice ever. Hitler killed 6 million Jews but wait he wasn't all that bad you have to look at it from his perspective. The religious people should look at things from my perspective before they come preaching about how bad of a person I am.
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    Comparing successful, wealthy people to rapists and murderers is absolutely stupid. They will just help themselves, what I find absurd is that Americans have a superiority complex and feel that they are responsible to resolve disputes which they have no part in. The rich don't have any burdens. That's what has made them rich. Now that they are wealthy, they have no responsibility to help the poor, after all, they've earned their money and they can spend it in whatever way they want. What I don't like is the fucking dirty reds telling people what they have to do with their property and deciding on what something is or isn't the "correct moral choice". Treat people as individuals and stop being a jealous, angsty pinko.
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    What does this have to do with Hitler? On the whole, I'm pretty sure that looking at something from someone else's perspective is usually a good idea. You know, walk a mile in someone's shoes? I'm not defending Hitler. And also, "religous people", as you call them, also have done a lot of good, saving people in body as well as mind. Some, of course, have also done bad, but still, don't just condemn them all.
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    Why should we look at religion from the perspective of someone who is trying to force you to believe in their religion or damn you to hell, when they never bother to look at the situation from your perspective?
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    No you don't. A truly moral man holds no obligations, he simply lives by his own effort to his own ends.
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    Why shouldn't we? Just because someone else is being ignorent doesn't mean you should also.
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    I wasn't comparing them, I was in fact stating that they should not, and nobody should, help rapists and murderers. I don't see how they have anything in common...whatsoever.
    How? How the fuck are they going to help themselves if their own fucking governments are bombing them? How are they going to help themselves if they can't read or write? How are they going to help themselves when they are dying in a one room hut and bleeding out from Ebola? How are they going to help themselves when they are fed from birth to believe that everything in their life is right?
    Notice: Your British. I'm half British, and would rather call myself British than American but the fact is I am an American. Another fact is, the British follow American policy almost move for fucking move so don't tell me "oh the Americans think this" cause the fact is that your policy makers think the same thing.
    First, many rich people have inherited they're money, you won't find many success stories in first world countries anymore because people got lazy. I know a 20 year old guy who's a multi-millionaire because he lives with rich mummy and daddy. Second, your right, they can use it however they want. But using it simply so they can live comfortable expensive ass lives at the expense of the poor makes them no better than the dictators.
    Your idea of treating people like individuals seems to mean your not treating them at all.
    Morals are a matter of opinion. I shouldn't have said moral obligation in that case. What I meant was something more akin to a social obligation.
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    No they aren't. Those who chose to live and love are moral, those who chose to serve and die are immoral.

    No such thing exists.
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    The point i was making was looking at something from someone else s perspective is not always the best way to go at things.
    As I call them? Thats what everybody calls them because thats what they are. They are religious hence religious people. You make it sound as though it was an insult. Even though it is a common expression for the group of people they belong in.
    Sure and i never said that religion is bad, they just don't have to try and "save" me every day. Also they don't do it out of kindness they do it because they feel it will help them get a better place in the afterlife.
    I feel it's ok they come one time but when that same guy knocks on your door for the fifth time you get a bit pissed.
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    Morals ARE a matter of opinion. Its your opinion that to be moral you need to live and love. Its my opinion that to be moral you should help others as much as you can and try to make a change for the better in our world.
    Also, what I met by social obligation is an obligation to your society, or community. An obligation to yourself. Anything like that. Helping people is smiled upon in society. Sitting alone in a mansion by yourself is not so smiled upon. Although I wouldn't say its frowned upon by the average person.
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    And? Is calling me a red supposed to make me feel something?
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    No, I was just showing you that, as you appear to agree with Toast, you in fact do not. You, much like me, believe there is one correct moral road in life. We just have a different OPINION on what that road may be.
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    You just said you put that there because he is agreeing with toast, then said he is not agreeing with toast.

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