Dumbest Tactical decision

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  1. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    I posted a full explaination...
  2. Leonard Well-Known Member

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    I agree, there were so many mistakes in that movie... if you're gonna make a historical movie, at least do some basic research.
  3. Shisno Doesn't know who did this

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    Episodes 4, 5, and 6 of Star Wars, actually no, any movie where there are minions of a bad guy and they have guns. They can't fucking shoot for shit. Give him a pistol, fucking misses. Give hime a machine gun, fucking misses. At least train your guys to shoot properly, because they can't shoot for shit.
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    Also you would imagine, that ballistic weapons are more effective than laser gun. I mean they got higher rate of fire, faster bullet travel time and they don't glow in dark...
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    How can bullets travel faster than lasers?
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    I don't know nor do I have actual data, but from watching Star wars I can swear laser is much slower than old school bullets would be.
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    Lasers travel at the speed of light. Bullets travel at 1200–1500 m/s.
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    Not in Star wars
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  10. Sokol-1 Well-Known Member

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    It's funny considering in real life a laser should have a faster velocity than a kinetic bullet and wouldn't be affected by gravity and wind
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    It still has very low rate of fire making it inferior in every other than long range combat, and even then its glowing red
  12. Sokol-1 Well-Known Member

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    I don't agree that a laser only has a slow rate of fire considering a laser rifle hasn't been invented yet but I do agree on the fact it glows annoyingly it would make it too easy for the enemy to find where your firing from
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    We're talking about Star wars here
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    Well, lasers solely firing tracers has it's ups and downs. For one, it helps to adjust aiming. It also can be of use for giving orders. Apart from that it just gives away the position of the soldier.
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    one of the worst movies i have ever seen is house of the dead.
    it is based on the game with the same name in the sence that there is a house and some dead people.

    during the climax the protagonists are trying to get to a house to get to safety
    but to get to the house they have to get past some zombies.
    so instead of just shooting their way to the house, they start this violent orgie of john woo inspired nonsence
    during which several people are bitten.
    its not untill they expend almost all their ammo that they decide to go in to the house.
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    Speaking of Star wars, isn't them plasma balls that jar jar binx people use to kill people the worst armament ever?
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    He believed the Droidekas and Darth Maul would protect them from anything they sent.
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    Aww Star Wars, It's interesting to note that for the CIS' battle droids in star wars are considerably lacking in intelligence, even though they are robots. Thoughts?
  19. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    Where is Sky when you need him, hmm?
    Dude. Its called plot armor. Notice how all the good guy extras are killed rather easily. If the main protagonists all got killed in the first five seconds of every shootout, then the story would be a little like:
    1) Intro
    2) Develop backstory
    3) Main characters get slaughtered in a minor skirmish
    4) Roll credits.
    Not much of a movie.
    You have a point, but not entirely.
    Lasers in real life WOULD have to slow down to penetrate the target and cause considerable damage, but not to the point that it would be slower than bullets.
    Movies, shows, and books are all equally ineffective in portraying how lasers would work as weapons because if you were to up the lasers to how they would really work, it would be a curb stomp 99% of the time. Just like plot armor, the way lasers work are part of the mechanics of maintaining a story.
    Bullets have tracers. Depending on the weapon, the tracers can be in every round or [like in miniguns] every 3rd-5th round.
    Rate of fire is iffy. It depends on the weapon. Some sci-fi canon has lasers that fire faster than any conventional weapon and some don't. Even SW has rapid-fire laser weaponry.
    Yes and no.
    They were essentially EMP granades, which would have been extremely affective against droids. So much that one wonders why Lucas chose to give them exactly what was the correct counter to droids.
    The defeat was partly that they were no good at tactics and partly because it was a movie.
    Movie wise, if they won, it would have made the destruction of the control ship largely unnecessary and ruin the film, especially since Jar-Jar would be a hero.
    Tactics wise, on a area with rolling hills and weapons that were sphereical and could roll down hill, they chose to fight in a valley between hills and then retreat uphill. Not the best and I am sure that Sun Tzu was turning over in his grave. If they were given competent command they would have stationed themselves on top of the hill and rolled their weapons downhill at the enemy. For crying out loud, in the movie, Jar-Jar accidentally opens a weapons cashe and the anti-tank bombs roll down the hill and destroy at least two pursuing tanks with one shot each. Their technology was not to blame for their defeat; it was mostly their own incompetance.
    One thing that is rare in even a sci-fi as big as Star Wars is droid A.I. Note that in the Clone Wars, Kenobi remarks to one of his compatriots: "Well, if droids could think, we wouldn't be here, would we?" I have to double-check, but I think that the Grand Republic had laws against A.I. I know for certain that the Emporer [Palpatine] and the Galactic Empire had a distain for droids in general. The two most noted droids for A.I. are HK-47 and
    IG-88, but aside from that, A.I. is virtually non-existent in the Star Wars universe. Recall also that the battle droids and their compatriots [with the exception of a few, including the Magna-Guard] were essentially cookie-cut models and were programed by the lowest bidder.
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  20. LampRevolt Well-Known Member

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    I believe they were called "boo baa's" or some nonsense but yes that was retarded. They had the technology for cities underwater and crazy ass force fields but no technology for motorized vehicles or firearms.

    OH and imperial I am sorry to inform you but a grenade that doesn't have a blast radius is virtually useless . I could be wrong but I never really saw one unless it hit the target head on. One army was shooting into a mass amount of fish people and killing everyone handily once it got through the force fields, the other was throwing EMP grenades with no blast radius and hoping that will destroy a gigantic army that has no concern for morale.

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