Hey guys im starting a project on vietnam {power point style} and wanted to know if anyone in the forums had any interesting facts or stories to give. I don't care if its anti-america {or anti-imperial whatever you call it} but it must have some facts to back it up. For instance pol pot killed many in persecutions because he wanted to recreate history. Afact to back up this pol pot accusation is to show some statistics and pictures and maybe even qoute a speech. However the golden rule is to be polite in debates. Thanks again my peoplez!
During WWII the OSS heavily assisted the Vietnamese resistance forces, led by a certain Ho Chi Minh, even saving his life, as well as supplying them with weapons and training.
OSS was the precursor to the CIA, and HCM was the leader of the NVA/VC, you know, the bad guys. But we helped him in WWII.
i have never heard off OSS or HCM can you tell me their abbreviations? Where they like some secret police force {NKVD or gestapo}? EDIT: nvm i found it and very interesting to that the OSS existed. I always thought the CIA had been created during this time for ww2 but never disbanded.
OSS-Office of Stategic Services, they later renamed it the CIA, but during WWII it was the OSS. HCM-Ho Chi Minh, again, the leader of the bad guys in the Viet Nam War.
Well he didn't seem to be picking up what I was puttin down, so I tried to put it as simply as possible. So yeah, the VC/NVA opposed us, they were our bad guys.
Ho Chi Minh (you know, the leader of the Vietminh that the US were fighting) wanted independence for Vietnam from France, and asked the US to help him because they tend to be anti-colonialist. They refused him, so he turned to the communists instead (who are also anti-colonialists, naturally). If the US helped him gain independence after WW2, there would never have been a Vietnam War. It really makes no sense, because the US always opposes colonialism. They forced the Dutch to give up the Dutch East Indies, for example. Vietnam was an exeption, and it ended up costing the Americans dearly.
Ho Chi Minh was already a communist before the war. We did help him fight the Japanese, but turned our back on him when he wanted an independent communist Vietnam. We didn't particularly support the French either, but when the French created the Republic of Vietnam after they withdrew, we supported them over the communists.
Yeah he was, he became a communist shortly after WW1, but he asked the US for their support before that. They ignored him though.
I don't know if that's a good comparison...but in terms of noteriety here in the U.S. I suppose it's close.
Ho Chi Minh traveled to Versailles to attend the treaty of versailles trying to gain independence for Vietnam. Wilson was urging for every nation to be free and no colonialism, but turned down Ho Chi Minh's request for independence.
Firstly, Ho Chi Minh was already communist beforehand. Secondly, because French Indo-China was part of France which had withdrawn from NATO and had a ton of Communist sympathizers in it. So we had to keep France happy.
Yeah, he has a city named after him and he doesn't afraid of anything. He was a communist before the war, but only after the US refused to help him gain independence. I know that the Americans did it because they wanted to be on France's good side, but it was still against US principles to fight a colonial war.
No, he just went over the edge and embraced the USSR when the US refused to help him. At best he would've become like Yugoslavia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine–American_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish–American_War Just two examples of how we actually fought in colonial wars a lot. These are probably the two biggest though and obviously we're not as bad as the British or the French.
