Who would you vote for?

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by Keiser, Mar 17, 2012.

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Who would you vote for in 2012 for president?

Mitt Romney 1 vote(s) 1.4%
Rick Santorum 2 vote(s) 2.7%
Newt Gingrich 2 vote(s) 2.7%
Ron Paul 17 vote(s) 23.3%
Barack Obama 39 vote(s) 53.4%
Other 12 vote(s) 16.4%
  1. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    Nuclear Iran Love Triangle....
  2. FascistPatriot voted for Obama

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    Saying they should go back to pre 1967 borders for one. He has publicly turned against them on the Iran issue. He allowed this Arab spring bullshit to go on in countries like Egypt which were an ally of both the US and Israel. He's actively supported terrorist groups within Libya and Syria.
  3. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    Well there is no reason to attack Iran, even the Israeli generals think there is no reason. How is he supporting terrorist groups in Libya?
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    How does China and Russia treat us bad? How has he turned on Isreal? How has he made us look soft and timid?
  5. FascistPatriot voted for Obama

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    He supports these so called rebels which are actually comprised of mainly Al Quaeda affiliates and the Muslim brotherhood. Iran is actively developing a nuke. To allow a suicidal theocracy a nuke is unacceptable.

    China consistently cooks their books and manipulates currency in ways that oppose America. They openly oppose us on the world stage and do so because they realize Obama has no balls to do anything about it. As for turning his back on Israel I explained how he's done so in my previous post.
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    Are actual, true allies (Europe) respect us, and that is all we need. We give Israel way to much support as it is, and we now fight all their wars and attempt to justify what the rest of the world condemns. They have nukes, so why are they afraid of Iran making nuclear plants. We don't specifically know what the hell they will be doing with nuclear power, but let us not all assume they will build a bomb with it. And besides, they can't send that nuke to the US, so we really shouldn't be as worried as we are. And please, he just wants peace between Palestine and Israel. Are you suggesting that Palestinian refugees are just people who have no worth? And the Arab Spring, don't condemn it. It was people, average people standing up for their rights, and if I remember correctly, Obama only supported the Libyan rebels, and not any other rebels in any other country. And please give us sources stating that relations with the rest of the world have gone down with Obama.
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    WTF does " cooks their books " mean. And more importantly I do not understand how they manipulate our currency. Its not like China owns the US Mint or anything. Also how are the 2 realated in anyway?
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    Do you have any actual proof they are developing nukes? May I also mention that Israel also has nukes, and they have not actually signed the Treaty on Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, so thy can build as many fucking nukes as they want. Or the fact that Iran can't even attack the US, so they really can only attack Israel. We have never had the support of China. Ever. Maybe in WW2, but we have been idealogical enemies for the past 60 years, so of course they don't like us. Obama has improved US standing in the world considering he hasn't been a "LETS GO TO WAR WITH THE WORLD" type of guy and invaded countries at random. The only country he technically opened up a new front on Libya, was limited, being only air support for the rebels of a corrupt and evil regime, as it was with about every other country in the Middle East. He is going along with the UN, and trying to be a mature country and not decide we will skip the negotiations an go straight to war without anyone else. He is been a good president in foreign policy, that is all I will say on that.
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  9. FascistPatriot voted for Obama

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    Israel is a stable country that doesn't threaten the security of it's neighbors. They aren't a suicidal theocracy that wants to resurrect some Imam from a well. Thats the difference between the 2 having nukes. Even if they couldn't nuke us they could nuke Israel and it's our duty to not let that happen. It could also spark a nuclear arms race in the whole middle east which isn't a good thing.


    Why should we go along with the UN? We are a sovereign nation. Have you seen what the rebels are doing with Libya? Genocide of blacks and support for sharia law isn't evil?
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    You still haven't answered how you know that Iran is developing nuclear bombs. Israel is threatening war with Iran because they think they will develop bombs. Do we know they are developing nuclear weapons? No, we don't. Yet Israel will make war on Iran over a theory that they are and they will use it for evil purposes. They will go to war with or without the go ahead of the US. They won't even inform us that they will go to war if that will be their intention. And we go along with the UN because there are 195 other countries within it, so, to put it plainly, the fate of what happens in the world rests upon decisions the UN makes. If the US wasn't part of it, then are interests are not put forward to the rest of the world, and are not taken into consideration. And are you saying that Gaddafi was a good person? Do you think that Libya would better with him?
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  11. FascistPatriot voted for Obama

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    Israeli intelligence and Iran own admission to a nuclear program prove it.


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    Most countries simply ignore what the UN has to say and get away with it time and time again. The UN is a joke just like the league of nations was. I never said Ghaddafi was a good guy but I do believe libya was better off with him than with these rebels. Libya did have the highest standard of living in Africa and it wasn't our business anyway.
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    Most countries simply ignore what the UN has to say and get away with it time and time again. The UN is a joke just like the league of nations was. I never said Ghaddafi was a good guy but I do believe libya was better off with him than with these rebels. Libya did have the highest standard of living in Africa and it wasn't our business anyway.[/quote]
    Israel's intelligence? Seriously? Give me links! Not words. Prove to me that Iran is building nuclear weapons and they will use said weapons to attack other countries. Israel is the one threatening to attack Iran, not the other way around. Give me links to examples when people ignoring what the UN says. Then we will talk.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/12/iran-military-attack-legal-debate?newsfeed=true
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    Funny thing is, technically, it is illegal for Israel to occupy the West Bank and Gaza. In fact, the UN specifically told them that they had to go back to the pre 1967 borders...directly after they occupied them in 1967. So all Obama is doing is trying to get Israel to listen to international law for a change.
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    I wanted to know: why is it so bad for Israel to go back to pre-1967 borders?
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    Because those evil mooselamz will have a base to blow the freedom-loving Israelis up.
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    Al-queda and the Taliban were pretty much destroyed under Obama's term. Plus he has been nothing but kind to Australia whereas the others would most likely forget us.
  17. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Didn't he add military bases there?
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    Ebul mooselamz wants there oylz. AMERICANS MUST KILL EBUL MOOSELAMZ!
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    We have US military bases, which mean 2 things: we have a constant stream of US money coming in (those soldiers are pretty much armed tourists.) and we have military protection for when china decides they want our minerals.
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    All I got out of that was armed tourists are in Australia
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