American Nazi Party registers first Washington lobbyist

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  1. Vulcan200x Well-Known Member

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    I agree....do honsetly think that the communist party or Nazi party will ever have any control in United States of America.

    PEOPLE OF THE FORUMS, WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS WE NEED TO PREVENT THING BEFORE SHIT HAPPENS!

    THE COMMUNIST TOOK MY FAMILY AND I SWEAR ON THEIR GRAVES I WILL STOP COMMUNISM AND ANY THREAT I DEEM THAT ENDANGERS SOCIETY!
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    I am against the current system. What right do you have that says I can't voice that or support a party that opposes it that you don't like? Banning political parties and silencing people's beliefs means that the only way for them to be heard is to start shit. As in revolution, riots, that kind of thing.
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    The current system is good. Your so lucky you live in this nation..everyday I can speak my mind without being shot by the government!
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    No, both parties won't take over the United States of America. When the revolution, indeed, comes. It will be the leftists/syndicalists that will capitalize on it, not the Marxist spectrum unfortunately.

    So, tell me about the story of the communists that took your family away? Where was you born? I'm guessing you was born in a eastern-bloc nation, prove me wrong.
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    There's plenty of people struggling in this nation. Plenty of people who can not afford the health care they need. Plenty of people struggling to get by. I would consider myself much luckier to live in a nation like Canada. China is fucked up, I'm not going to argue that and I don't support your government. It is not what I support and it is not what people who think like me support.
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    Well there is a bit of a difference here, the nazi party is built around the ideas of racial superiority, nationalism and anti-semistism . While the native american genocide was horrible, I don't see any parties today(or back then) who's core tenant is that natives are inferior and that we should steal their land.
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    I was born in America, because my family had to escape communism.....My family lived in South Vietnam before the war and during the war. My grandfather and other relatives told me to his life in Vietnam how it was wonderful before 1975....my family suffered...some were killed because of believing in Democracy..My grandfather told that communism is bad and I vowed when he died .I vowed to stop what remains of communism. That is a short jest of it...

    You will never understand pain people go through communism.....

    You will never understand true pain by the government...this has nothing do with China..there government has nothing do with this discussion....I believe China for the better every chinese person deserves better.
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    Vulcan, I hate to say it but you can not stop an ideology on your own nor is communism inherently bad. People have suffered in war at the hands of countries following every ideology. I apologize, from stuff Stalin has said I thought you lived in China.
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    Communism doesn't kill people, Communists kill people.
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    Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Bullets kinda kill people, but they would be innocent if it wasn't for the bastards who discovered how to use metal. So the people who initiated the Branze and Iron age kill people.
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    I must ..I vowed on my grandfather grave or ashes........for honor....for the better cause...as long I draw breath I will try to stop threat to this nation....this nation brought my family a better life. If I lived in China and bashed about the government I would be exiled or something...in China as long you don't speak against the government or commit crime your fine...in China its like the U.S. people don't worry about this and carry on normal lives...China is not really communist..
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    You call communism bad partly because of not being able to express your own political beliefs that oppose it. Yet (not as far as being shot) you desire to suppress political beliefs just like those you are against.
    You're right, it isn't but people call it communist still which is wrong.
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    Some of your family relatives died for simply speaking out against the system, or praising the democracy that they once used to live in. In the eyes of the brutes that is considered something counter-revolutionary, although, as a Marxist myself, I do NOT condone the persecution/murder of people that simply speak out or are in contrast of my ideological beliefs. I'm deeply saddened from reading that horrific story, my condolences are with you and your family in the past.

    I'm not dogmatic or prejudice when it comes to what I believe, I try to articulate with a thought of pragmatism and endure the difficulties I have to take when confront with people that are opposed to my views. I recognized some of the horrors that communism has portrayed, I don't hope to repeat that. Every ideology has done its bad deed, everyone has to accept the fact that not everything or everyone is perfect in this world and we all make mistakes.
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    Exactly what Soviet said.
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    No....I dislike communism for many reason....they killed some of my family....and the government said "Its for the best for the nation." BULLSHIT......I am just surprised thats all.......I used to believe in Communism until I learned the truth.

    But Soviet is right and I thank him for understanding.
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    I understand your reasons for hating it but that doesn't mean all communists believe in such violent actions as killing people for their beliefs. My mother suffered greatly because of the current system in America. In agonizing pain daily and barely able to afford medications and hospital visits. My father was fucked up in the head due to his time in the US military. I am against the current system and it's aggressive international policies and I have reasons. It does not mean that either of us should have our beliefs banned. I am sorry your family was killed and I will leave the issue at that.
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    I realize why you would be angry at commies for killing your family but you miss the point. Outlawing everything you disagree with is the same as the ideology which got your family killed. I'm sure many people in Ho Chi Mihns army had parents killed by people who believed in capitalism and nationalism but that doesn't mean capitalism or nationalism are inherently evil. I hate communism but you hate them for the wrong reasons. It's a hatred rooted in emotion rather than logic,

    My real problem though isn;t that you hate communism. I hate it with a passion but you seem to lump communism with every party you disagree with. This is why you say the nazis should be outlawed and according to your standards fascism should be outlawed. You praise America and democracy but you want to end the very thing that makes democracy great. Freedom of speech wasn't enacted to protect the majority. It's around to protect unpopular opinions like those of communists and nazis. But protecting those freedoms is at the very root of democracy.
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    .....Your right.....I am sorry about that....everyone is entitled to their opinion...we can not agree on this each other because were two different people and raised or taught differently. People have their own pain for their own reasons....I wish in a world that pain is gone.

    Sometimes emotions is not right to go but the reasonable way to go.....the reason why I am against american fascism or Nazi party is I am afraid killing or oppression will happen.
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    Seeing as it would be immoral and wrong if I started defending the regime when knowing full well your relatives got executed by it. No, I believe you and all. Deeply disturbing. However I'm a still a devoted Marxist with an added ounce of bias towards my world view and what needs to be done. I'm strongly support my position against the system of capitalism and what crimes it has perpetrated in the past. I care for my respected worker, no matter the skin color, gender, nationality, ethnicity, religion, etc..... I stand in loyalty to every single proletariat of the world. I acknowledge only class struggle and stand respectfully side by side with the working class against the higher-ups and their establishment.
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    No worries. I think most of us would desire a world free of pain, were such a thing possible.
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