Breivik

Little bastards were obviously trying to kill him, luckily he happened to be heavily armed so he could fend of the little cretins.

KK.
Yeah, I get that sometimes too.

Your atrocious syntax and consistent, elementary, semantic failures, as well as your inability to spell simple words, all contribute to making your posts physically upsetting.

Your style of writing is unbelievably pretentious, which would be one thing, but the fact that you routinely don't understand what you're talking about or even how to spell it makes it considerably worse.

I find the way you post to be aesthetically, grammatically, syntactically, semantically, and rhetorically displeasing, far more so than any other members' posting styles.

So if it seems like I'm targeting you for your errors, well yes, I am.

Pretty sure it was a summer camp organised by some left wing party in Norway.
Breivik is a nationalist who thinks Europe is still at war with the middle east and the islam.
Since the left supports immigration and equality and all that, he figured the socialist summer camp would be a cool target.

THOSE EBUL MOOSELAMEZ! TRYING TO CORRUPTZ SACRED URUP FROM TEH INSIDE!

I know that it was a summer camp for leftists. It's just not particularly relevant, as it doesn't make what he did excusable (or somehow "less bad" than if he had targeted a summer camp for libertarians) or affect the much more significant and latent issue of the failure of multiculturalism.

you dont know a fucking thing about norway.
you are saying that he was saving the country from the way it has always been
and changing it against the will of 5 million people in favor of one.
i knew people who were killed there you fucking piece of shit.
just do us all a favor and leave the forums, we are all tired of your bullshit.

When it comes to multiculturalism, it's a benefit to live in a place like the United States, which is not a nation-state, and thus open to all cultures, but I don't think the government should distinguish between them or specially accommodate them. A place like Norway, however, might need tighter immigration laws to preserve it's identity, should multiculturalism become a prominent issue.

lolwut?

Punishment is useless and achieves nothing. The only point of a prison if it is to exist should be rehabilitation and if needed, separation from society for the protection of the peace.

No, don't encourage him.

I, too, detest the idea of punishment. It's immoral.

I'm pretty sure Breivik is getting indefinite detention if he isn't declared insane.
I'm not so sure when it comes to the failure of multiculturalism... It's kind of a big question.

Just figured i'd post some more background information is all

It was the "workers party" camp, it is the biggest political party in Norway. They aren't very leftist, anyway I support most of the stuff they stand for.

Ironically for Breivik is that AP (workers party) is pushing for tougher immigration laws. So even though they are leftist and against most of Breiviks views, they have (although considerably less drastic and racist) thougher immigration policy.

I've read that a jury can extend Breivik's sentence unlimited amount of times, essentially making it life, so we have nothing to worry about on that front. He'll never get out. About the Norwegian prison conditions- statistics show that the reoffending rate is lower than in the US or elsewhere, so they must be doing something right. I support rehabilitation as a principle, and I believe there are many things we could learn from Norway in terms of prison rehabilitation. Breivik certainly doesn't deserve it though,and he certainly can't be rehabilitated, and he deserves far, far worse.

After many expert psychiatrists have given their reports on Breivik. He is declared completely sane, he is just a man with an ideology twisted enough that he thinks its okay to kill for him to ''prove his point''.

Then what will they do with him? He will still be prosecuted for the murder of those youths, but will he just not be thrown in a mental hospital.

i couldn't agree more.

I´m sorry, but I have to disagree with you. The ideas of Breivik are evil, but marxists ideals are equally evil, and I rearely see them being condemned, unlike what happens with the nationalists/fascist/nazis.

If people commit crimes, they of course should be punished. But if there are people who believe in the same ideals of Breivik but disagree with violent ways, I´m not going to prohibit those people of propagating those ideals.

Freedom of speech should be for everyone, including for those with discusting ideals. If we are prohibiting people with the same ideals then Breivik, we are no better then them.

Dumbass.

In conclusion, he should get the life sentence. Probably he should receive like 20 years for each death, which is basically life in prison.

I'm afraid that you seem to miss-understand. I advocate freedom of speech but I believe that the media should not let him use his killings in order to spread his beliefs.