Can We Literally Have A Debate About Locking Threads Without It Being Locked?

So the staff now has an undying hatred of all things debate and thus deems they must be locked, but what about discussion? Is it so wrong for us to have our own opinions?

We kind of did. No one is responding.

If it's locked there will just be another thread. So long as people can make threads there will be a thread against such excessive locking.

Harassing the system will only get you in trouble.
If this thread gets locked, don't start another.

If you continue to make threads after the threads are locked that can be considered spam.

You mis-understood me. I wont. In fact, I didn't make this thread if you haven't noticed yet. I mean there will always be someone to post a thread against it, regardless of whether or not it's me. And so long as you keep locking them there will still be more threads. Ideas are lock-proof.

Oh no, an infraction!
I suppose if I got one of them I wouldn't be able to-
Oh wait I forgot, infractions don't matter. Without tribunes, having a single infraction isn't relevant to anything.

Not a single infraction no. Save the whole ideas are lock proof look at me I'm from V mess. If people continue to spam "stop locking threads" threads then we will lock those and or delete them and issue infractions as needed. If people spam enough yes it can lead to temp bans.

How about you just tell us why you lock threads in general (not specifically to you chelsea, I am simply grouping you in a moderating category with all the other staff members).

at least bring back the tribunes that was fun, ;p

I see no reason to not give out our reason for locking.

The tribune system is done.

In order to do that we to enact the "Sunshine Policy"

Again, I was just joking around with him.

Please, do not take these things so seriously.

You seem to hold some great dogma against these reforms and you seem to think that everyone agrees with you.

People don't agree with you about it.
The handful of individuals complaining about these things are not some grand force to be feared.

No one, without irony, will post another thread on this issue when this one is locked.

Your liberties are not being oppressed.
You still have every right to free speech with-in reason.
You won't be sent to a gulag for speaking out against the site.
You won't be stoned for arguing with Stalin.
You're not suffering here.

This site is privately owned and the owner has made his decision on how this site will be administrated.
Crying out about how you don't like it is not winning you any fights.
Especially considering that there is no fight.
You're not some pariah dying for your cause.

You're posting threads to complain, not overthrowing a Tsar.

What?

But we're not spamming. We're making one thread at a time and neatly and orderly petitioning for something very reasonable. That's hardly spam.

I agree the freedom of speech should be in regulations but some this regulation are not quite the best to the freest people, just turn a blind eye to it

Actually yes it is spam. You're (you as a general you) continually posting a thread despite them being locked. Continually posting threads on the same subject because they're being locked or deleted is and will be treated as spam.

No, it's not spam. If you're going to lock threads you may as well say it out loud that you're doing it because they disagree with you instead of fooling yourself into thinking it's because they're "spam".

That's nonsense. In fact the majority does agree that people shouldn't just be banned permanently for stupid reasons and that the Mods should give a reason for a lock. Though I am more extreme the general belief is not unheld.

Why don't you just keep telling yourself that you're the great majority and everyone agrees with you besides a few extremists?

Want to bet on that?

Never said that.

If by with-in reason you mean "can be censored at any time at Mod's decision" then you're right.

Never said that.

Never said that.

Never said that.

And I disagree with his decision and petition him to change it. There's nothing unreasonable there.

Nor is locking everything.

Well not yet. We're just ahead of the curtain currently.

Never said that.

What is the point behind this? To discredit our very reasonable ideas? To make us lose confidence? Either way it is not working. In fact I could say that "crying about how you don't like it is not winning you any fights" if I might quote someone I know. I post, not because I think that Stalin is some boogy man that must be destroyed, but rather because I do not want to see this forum descend into something like Total War Central where there is no such thing as a right.

Then we all agree.
From this point forward, the mods will not ban anyone permanently for a stupid reason.
And from this point forward, the mods have the right to give a reason for their lock.

I'm sorry @Chelsea366, but now that this issue has been settled, I'm going to lock this thread and hold myself responsible for doing so.

No one, other than Stalin himself, if he sees fit, should post another thread concerning this issue.

Fine by me, I will be locking any further threads on the issue started by members as spam. Also we have never and will never perma ban anyone for a stupid reason. We need Stalin's approval AND it takes a whole hell of a lot of rule breaking to get there.