Religion in American society

Please explain how that is more athiest, What would a agnostic do ?

Agnostics just don't give a shit.

There is no cure. For now, we will not cure AIDS. Because in the time we have been experimenting with cures, we have not ONCE been able to cure a virus. We have been able to prevent infection (vaccines) and we have been able to slow down the virus, relieve symptoms, and relieve pain, we have even been able to wipe out diseases completely (smallpox), but we have never ever found an actual cure for a virus. From what we know right now, its impossible.

Fair enough.

Well then maybe I was thinking of a vaccine.

But if your not willing to be a *Asshole* for somthing you really believe in, Then why bother ?, I mean the way I look at it is if this is really the * Right * way in your eyes, Why not follow everything in it ? instead of the *Fuzzy parts*, I mean heck alot of people in america are christian, and I always thought the only reason why was because these people growing up weren't taught Everything about it, I mean if you ask most christians now adays to say the 10 commandments on the street or when is lent, they look at you like you were crazy all most christians know is, Jesus, God , And the holy ghost ! And then you have a lot of them who get this idea that they can cut certain things out of the bible, Like most conservatives who believe being gay is wrong yet fail to acknowledge that Jesus said that rich people should give up their money and earthly possessions.

Mark 12:41-44
Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents.
Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on.”

I mean think about this, if you really cared about somthing you wouldn't * Butcher * Parts out because you think that their not correct.

I mean think about this for a second, If the Perfect Communist were to appear tomorrow by some miracle, and he said Fuck the capitalist governments of the world, Would any of you communists, really pick up a gun and go join the revolution ?, Is your beliefs really that important to you ?, If not why ?

And Agnostics, not giving a fuck, Well they obviously do or they wouldn't be Agnostic, you don't label your self somthing unless you really care for it, but then again alot of people do it seems.

What? What has that to do with being an asshole? If I believe in something I have the "right" to be a prick?

Well you have to be a little bit of a asshole if you want results, If you aren't then well its pointless, anyone could say their somthing and then think it and sit in a corner all day, and believe it is the right way, Alot of christians like to do this and the most common excuse is, They,ll be punished in the afterlife with hell, But at the same time the bible talks about saving people, through convertion, So if you really believe in the bible, Shouldn't you be saving souls ?, It sounds prickish, Because you know How dare they force their beliefs on others !, But that's their belief, Why label your self Catholic if you refuse to do half the things being catholic requires you to do ?, Even if those things are * Assholeish*

Matthew 28:19
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

One thing is trying to convert people and another one is to be an asshole (not the same thing as annoying), but whatever dude...

It's to show that people like to cut the bible up, alot of Christian conservatives listen to Levictus 20:13, Which basically says being gay is wrong.

Levictus 20:13
If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.

But they fail to acknowledge that Jesus said that rich people should give up their money.

Mark 12:41-44
Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents.
Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on."

When in that story did he say the rich should give up all of their money?

Mark 12:41-44
Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts.

(Okay here Jesus watches a bunch of rich dudes come up and throw their stuff into the charity box.)


But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents.
Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others.

(What ? she only put two coins in though)


They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on."

(It basically says here that, The rich people are still rich they could easily give up alot of money but because of that they are not Extremely good due to the fact they are still rich, The poor woman though gave everything she had, Therefore she is more * Good* because she gave everything and now she is extremely poor

Yes but in todays society any attempt to convert is considered assholeish, If a Christian were to walk up to a athiest or a Athiest were to walk up to a christian in the middle of the street and go, Im sorry but everything you believe in is wrong, This is the right way,

Athiest: If you don't believe this your stupid because of this scientific evidence
Chirstian: If I can't save you I can't say if you,ll go to heaven or hell.

None of this is a bit assholeish to you telling someone that everything they believe in is shit ? and you are the almighty prophet of wisdom ? or somthing like that.

So you admit to being a dick. ;-) In any case, using the opinions of a single person to judge roughly 2.1 billion people is just about as idiotic as those you berate. Get. The. Fuck. Over. It. And the whole championing of slavery and murder thing, have you looked at the history of science. (I am assuming you hold the scientific theory in high regard.) Eugenics, social darwinism, The Bell Curve, etc..

I am not arguing it as fact, but as a possibility of justification.

Nevermind, I think you didn't understand Kali. Fun fact, in that example, the atheist was the one who sounded like an asshole.

Is there something wrong with giving all you have to the Church?

If quoting credible sources and pointing out flaws makes you a douche, I gladly am one

It's most the form you present you arguments and that provocative (I guess) use of the

Dude we should all get into Christian Socialism debate.

So telling someone that they are going to a place of eternal torment untill the end of time ain't assholeish ?, I don't care how you word it it could be like this

YOUR GOING TO HELL SINNER UNLESS YOU CHANGE YOUR WAYS

Or it could be like this

If you don't convert god will be unable to save your soul from the fire of hell

Either way it's the same freaking message,

I am the right way convert or burn you choose buddy.

Athiests do seem like assholes but that's because they get irritated, They can show all this evidence all this proof disprove the bible in some parts, but in the end they can't freaking prove god is fake ya know why ? God is a idea, You can't do a lab and prove that god exists or doesn't exist like you can water turns into ice in cold temperatures, Trying to prove god is fake or he's real is impossible. Think about this if I said I have a purple unicorn in my room that is invisible And only a few people can see it or hear it, And it tells me that unless you believe in it you won't get a cookie in the afterlife how could you prove me wrong ?

No, fuck this shit man, I will start adoring the Sun. Enough with all this.

That's exaclty the difference between being a dick or not.