Renewed Occupy movement?

Well, it has been several days and I have not seen a renewed occupy movement. Better luck next time trying to win with a group that isn't clear in its demands, has no leaders, yells at Jews, vandalizes property, and has no organization, but to sit in tents where they can smoke weed and then go out to do a little protesting once in a while.

What?

Sorry I meant to put 14%. 1% is next to impossible lol. I just looked it up further, and in 1941, the unemployment rate was about 9%. 9% doesn't sound that good, but when you consider how high it was when he took office, that is a huge accomplishment. Also, in 1940, the unemployment rate was 14%. So in one year, he brought it down 5%, and overall, he brought it down about 15%, all before the US entry into world war 2.

Ok, that makes more sense. However, its not that big of an accomplishment to bring the unemployment down five percent in the middle of a massive war. 33 - 14 percent is still a major accomplishment though.

Technically the Japanese....

We did not enter the war until December of 1941. We were still neutral for 99% of 1941.

Actually that would be like 93%, not 99%....and we were also already doing the lend lease act and preparing for war, you know with all the new ships and planes Roosevelt ordered into production in 1940....

@slydessertfox Your knowledge of the US leading up to WWII is lacking. For the most part, the New Deal was a series of band aids over the gash in America that was the Great depression. When Hitler started the war in 1939, and especially when he overran most of Britain's allies by 1940, the American economy was saved by a new source of demand, Britain.

So with all your talk about how Roosevelt's New Deal worked, which began in 1933, but which, as you claim, did not work until around 1940, when it was actually our trade with Britain that saved us, you seem to have missed the basics of American history in the Great Depression-WWII era. Hitler saved the American economy when he conquered France in 1940.

Where did I say that the New Deal didnt start to work until 1940? I was just using 1940 as an end date because that was the last full year the US was neutral during World War 2.

If you look at economic performance in the 1930's after Roosevelt took office, you see a constant upward trend.

Also: http://www.laprogressive.com/guess-what-the-new-deal-worked/

Of course you see an upward trend. Band-aids. But the economy skyrocketed after Hitler's invasion of France, and the New Deal has created ever lasting problems for us in the present.

Like what?

The New Deal legacies include unemployment insurance, old age insurance, and insured bank deposits. The Wagner Act reduced violence in labor relations. The Securities and Exchange Commission protected stock market investments of millions of small investors. The Federal Housing Administration and Fannie Mae enabled a majority of Americans to become homeowners. And, don't forget social security.

The best part is that he has a sign saying that Nazis control Wall Street and then he says the Jews control Wall Street.

Hey Shaw, could you name a crisis that was the direct result of the New Deal and the specific laws or regulations?

*Grabs popcorn*

Here you go:

Wait, how did we go from Occupy Wall Street to if the New Deal failed or not?

Everything on this forum goes off topic pretty quickly.

Remind me to respond to this tomorrow, I will, but I have stuff to do today.

You're equally ridiculous.

You may not realize it but you've actually just made an argument in favor of Keynesian theory. Nice job hippy.

That's actually a huge fucking change when you look at from a strictly mathematical perspective.

In a liberal economy we wouldn't have been in a depression to begin with. And how is my argument that Roosevelt's Keynesian policy failed in favor of Keynesian theory?

Answering to D3vil: The Great Depression was caused by statist policies of Herbert Hoover, and FDR. Why did such countries like Great Britain (who was more laisse-faire then the USA at FDR´s time) got out of the depression faster then the USA?




And the financial crysis of 2008 was a consequence of government housing policy that underwrote unsunstainable economic activity. There is no proof that the free-market caused such a crysis.