I give up on America.

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  1. darthdj31 City States Map Director

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    A Good 20, Meh 4, and Sucks 20 is a little inconsistance, no?
    I would do 1st , 2nd, 3rd, and then 4th Quarters.
    darthdj31, May 9, 2012
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  2. 1Historygenius Member

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    No doubt that the economy is improving, but I try to look at it all ways and here it is:

    Economy: Slightly Positive
    Taxes: Negative
    Debt: Negative
    Afghanistan: Even
    War on Terror: Positive
    Healthcare: Negative
    Budget: Negative

    These are generally the big issues I have looked at. Most as you see are negative. Each president has different categories and I give it negative, positive, or even.

    Yeah, it is kind of like how shocking it is to know that JFK was on the ballot and he had an affair with a Nazi spy, good thing I remembered that one post, who posted that again in the history forum?

    Also, how are you so sure the economy is no recovering naturally in a natural economic cycle because we are not living in a dictatorship here.
    1Historygenius, May 9, 2012
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  3. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Increasing taxes =positive
    everyone getting healthcare=positive
    budget=not his fault.
    slydessertfox, May 9, 2012
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  4. 1Historygenius Member

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    No taxes is bad, he did not get his budget through, most people don't want national healthcare which I guess cancels out that you do what the American people want.
    1Historygenius, May 9, 2012
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  5. Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    Not that suprising. I mean it texas what do you expect.

    Edit. sorry did not read the article, still west virginina is pretty conservative.
    Spartacus, May 9, 2012
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  6. 1Historygenius Member

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    Everyone has different ways to rank.
    1Historygenius, May 9, 2012
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  7. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    When the fuck did we get a national healthcare plan?
    Demondaze, May 9, 2012
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    We didn't but the president proposed universal healthcare and most people do not want it in fact the latest poll shows 55% oppose Obamacare, and 36% support it. according to Rasmussen.
    1Historygenius, May 9, 2012
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  9. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    The president never proposed any kind of universal healthcare plan, and thus I fail to see the relevancy of statistics regarding the public approval rating of "Obamacare" to the subject.
    Demondaze, May 9, 2012
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  10. Chelsea366 Retired Moderator

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    Oh well that makes it perfectly fine for him to be the leader of the country then, since it's just extortion.
    Chelsea366, May 9, 2012
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  11. 1Historygenius Member

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    Well, then your ignorant, good day!
    1Historygenius, May 9, 2012
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  12. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    Outstanding counter argument.

    Demondaze, May 10, 2012
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  13. Shisno Doesn't know who did this

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    I like to rate hime based on 5 main categories:
    Foreign Policy: Positive
    Handling the Debt: Negative
    Economy (Unemployment and Deficit Management): Slightly Negative
    War: Slightly Positive
    Social Issues: Positive
    So I wouldn't rate him as the worse, but I won't rate him as a kind of Roosevelt or Kennedy or even a Polk.
    Shisno, May 10, 2012
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  14. TheRedHeadGamer He number 666

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    Well Mr perry, You are forgetting one thing, Ask not what your country can do for you, But what you can do for your country.
    TheRedHeadGamer, May 10, 2012
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  15. Vulcan200x Well-Known Member

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    vote, pay taxes, and support our leader
    Vulcan200x, May 10, 2012
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  16. DUTCHSOCIALIST!!!! Member

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    Why should I tell you?
    No national healthcare is because Americans are blind and stupid.
    DUTCHSOCIALIST!!!!, May 10, 2012
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  17. Shisno Doesn't know who did this

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    I thought it was be ignorant, assholes and superior to all other countries?
    Shisno, May 10, 2012
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  18. JosefVStalin El Presidente

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    JosefVStalin, May 10, 2012
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  19. DUTCHSOCIALIST!!!! Member

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    Can someone please explain why americans do not want social/universal healthcare?
    DUTCHSOCIALIST!!!!, May 10, 2012
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  20. JosefVStalin El Presidente

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    Because they have this ideological nonsensical belief that universal health care is bad because it limits their "freedoms" rather than pragmatically look at what's actually best for them.

    While that's a gross over simplification and more than a little facetious there's historical reasons why American's would culturally be opposed to universal health care.
    JosefVStalin, May 10, 2012
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