An extremely American political quiz

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Your post stood on an idea that irreducible complexity has some merit, which it doesn't. I get that we should teach kids critical thinking, but this isn't the way.

Not that it has some merit. Rather that as a concept it was founded the study of biology, and is therefor relevant to the academic discussion of biology.
If my class had never covered the subject of irreducible complexity and the discussion around it in an objective manor then I would have never been able to draw the conclusions that I have about the concept now, and thus my educational experience would be less than what it currently is.

Thing is though, that we still teach spontaneous generation and the geocentric model of the solar system in science classes. Not because they're correct, but because they're an important part of the history of scientific development, and because we should know why they're incorrect.

I agree. While, both theories have been proven, in some ways, incorrect, ignoring their historical significance is almost as bad as teaching them as fact. That, and the understanding must be made that their is a difference between teaching the subject, and talking about the subject.

Do you think small children are being taught evolution in public school? Are you retarded? They are learning about electricity and different kinds of animals in elementary school science class! They don't even touch on anything like that, science in elementary school just explains the basics on how the world functions.

You just want your iron age bullshit to be taught to children as a fact so you can feel affirmed in your beliefs.

I am not talking about small children, I am talking about Middle School children.

No shit.

No, you assumed that, I want others to have a choice. I can call all of your anti-atheistic beliefs bullshit, but no I don't insult others based on their beliefs.

But if that was true you would have to do all religions, Because im pretty sure not everyone is christian, Also the entire idea is stupid because people get angry about this stuff all the time, I mean hell look at these forums, When I had biology a year ago or so, We were going over evolution and of course one of the christians, took the whole part too far and started calling the teacher a christian hating whore, and every five seconds in the middle of class he would interupt it in a attempt to justify how god did this or did that or something, anyway it just causes problems, And has no place in a * Science * class.

I have no problem with them teaching every religion, they teach that in Social Studies. I don't like Creationism, I believe in God but that doesn't mean I can't believe in Evolution.

But if you believe in evolution, You are basically calling the bible crap once again, Because according to the bible we were made perfect in god's image, By believing in evolution you are saying we weren't made perfect and over time we adapted.

Genesis 1:27.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them

@GeneralofCarthage

We shouldn't teach creationism in schools. Religious institutions exist specifically for that purpose, and I would assume any religious person that adheres to those teachings already attends said institutions. We should however offer some form of theological studies elective for those actually interested in studying theology in an academic fashion.
I also don't see the harm in voluntary after-school bible studies groups.

HE CREATED US APES *flips off god*

My issue was that you were claiming that irreducible complexity is a problem in the scientific community, and is somehow valid. Basically it all reminded me of that old creationist motto "teach the controversy".

I'm fine with that, but Demondaze was saying that irreducible complexity is still and issue in the scientific community and should be taught as such. At least thats how I saw it.

Really?

You're full of shit, and the conversation you were in at the time was about public school.

Creationism is a key tenant of basically all religion actually. It's also wrong to let people be religious because they then will always inflict their bullshit on those around them. North carolina for instance, is full of inbred self centered ignorant religious people obviously.

Luckily for you your entire country is filled with idiots who believe in that nonsense so I'm sure the children will be MORE then exposed in the majority of American households. I insult you based on your beliefs because your beliefs are a joke, just like all the other religions that are equally as credible. Maybe you and the aztecs should sacrifice some goats together, barbarian. Speaking of which I DEMAND that if you teach christian monotheistic creationism in school that you also have to teach every other religion known to mans beliefs, in equal quantity and without bias.

By the way I'm not an anti atheist, so I am operating on the assumption that you ment anti-theist.

That wasn't my point at all. Sorry if I had you confused.

I love how An extremely American political quiz turns into a religion free for all.

Creationism is usually taught in a humanities class when religious belief systems come up.

He's one of the convienience christians who likes to ignore the 90% of the book which is archaic barbarism.

You can blame me for this..

You didn't start it GOD did. trololololololol