An extremely American political quiz

1. My bad. 7 AM, haven't slept all night.
2. You seriously should keep your temper in check. No need to jump on my throat everytime. It's not like you are making sense most of the time either

@Melanthropist
Beacuse I care about people, and hate when they follow deluded doctrines. It makes me sad, and affraid. Knowing people in power believe we were created out of dust by a man with a beard and a magic wand....

I despise you utterly and completely.

You wanna talk about it? I think the problem is, that your mother ha snot given you love as a child.... Or you just a guy with no social contacts outside the internet. Probably both
Anyway, I love you too dude

You don't act like it.

There will always be flawed doctrines in practice. The way you view the world is not the "correct" way to view it.

Yeah, because you know me throughly right? You know me from a forum, probably read like a handfull of post where I argue with the likes of Kali. I am not the one who "despises" other people. And I am not the one who liked the post where someone said that he does. Sorry to break it to you: "You know nothing, (Jon Snow)!"

Absolute reality is something that will be hidden from us for probably forever. What we can assess however, is making assumptions about the reality based on evidence and facts. In our particular case, we cann see, that the scientific community worldwide has gathered evidence for evolution rather than creation. Evoultion has been demonstrated over and over again and nothing has come up to disprove it. The case for creationism (or ID) is the other way around. Assumptions have been made but none one has been suported by evidence. Not one! So yes, not only I but most people on this planet can agree that the "correct" reality in this case is in fact NOT that life was created by the magician with the wand.....
And on a side note: America is the ONLY civilized western country where this is even a topic of discussion. Everyone else has grown out of this kind of nonsense.

That isn't my problem. If the only time I come in contact with you is when you're being an asshole about people and their personal beliefs, well, don't be surprised if I don't like you.

I wasn't arguing the merits of creationism. I just don't think there is any reason you need to concern yourself so much with what Americans believe. I'd much rather have people thinking for themselves, regardless of the outcome, then having other people determine what is proper for them to believe in.

Conservative/Progressive score: 11 You are a social progressive. You generally consider yourself a humanist first. You probably think that religion and patriotism go too far in society. You probably consider yourself to be a citizen of Earth first rather than a citizen of your country.

Capitalist Purist/Social Capitalist score: 8
You are a Moderate Capitalist. You support an economy that is by and large a free market, but has public programs to help people who can't help themselves or need a little help. Pretty much you believe in the American economy how it currently is.

Libertarian/Authoritarian score: 2
You are libertarian. You think that the government is making way too many unnecessary laws that are taking away our innate rights. You believe that the government's job is primarily to protect people from harming other people, but after that they should mind their own business, and if we give the government too much power in controlling our lives, it can lead to fascism.

Pacifist/Militarist score: 7
You're a Moderate. You think that in very rare occasions, the United States should invade a country in order to make the world better by spreading democracy or ending a tyrants rule. You also think that defense is very important, and we shouldn't lower the defense budget. You think that, while the Iraq War probably was a mistake, that we can make the world a better place by sticking with it and spreading democracy in the middle east.

Overall, you would most likely fit into the category of Democrat

Question! Do you like Kali, seeing that he is full of hate towards me while doing the same thing, attacking other peoples believes when he disagrees? If yes, is it because his believes are more to your liking? Based on your argument WHY you have a problem with me, you should dislike him exactly how you dislike me. Now, I think we both know that this is de facto not the way it is, and you are probably a little hipocritical about that whole topic. But that s fine, I don't despise you for it, because I like humans

I don't care for personal believes most of the time, and despite what you think of me from what I post and stuff, I don't really invest much time in the subject in my real life. So, you are free to believe whatever nonsensical deluded thing you wish to believe as long as you keep it to yourself (which, taking christianity as an example, is against canonical rule [read: Peter 3:15]) AND it doesnt effect other people. Your personal freedom ends right were others are harmed.
There are many examples how deluded ideas harm others, and I will give you one that will have an effect on me as well to make you happy: I am very fearfull when it comes to the religiosity of the american people, becasue those are the people who vote for one of the most powerfull positions on this planet. And voters who think stuff like that the world is ginna end in theire lifetime in a blazing fire, will (most likely) vote for someone with the same fundamental believes.... I don't want that kind of person with codes for nuclear weapons.... (thats just one example, I got many more).

I don't know, it fluctuates, you know?

I don't dislike you because you attack personal beliefs, you're just an insane asshole about it. Also, the winky emoticon is enraging. In fact, that is reason enough to dislike you.

That makes no sense. Personal freedom should end when you directly harm another, not when they effect others in an ambiguous and indirect way. If you wanted to use that standard we wouldn't have very much freedom at all.

Why would he need to live there to look at stats and have an opinion on them?

There isn't an objectively correct way to view things.

Nobody was making anyone do anything, nor did he mention any evil scheme's to force you all to believe anything. You are crying because he dared to say something bad about religious people, being openly critical does not imply anything on what we believe should be government policy.

It's silly to be so opinionated about something so distance to ones self. He is free to do whatever he pleases though.

That was my point.

Fuck you, LampRevolt, that clearly is not what I am doing. If you want to have an actual argument maybe you shouldn't use the rhetorical techniques of middle schoolers.

Both greatmustachio and you are hostile and agressive in your debating about your beliefs, why should I think any differently?

That's confusing logic, we're particularly forward with our beliefs so we doubtlessly in your logic MUST want to legislate our beliefs? Legislating based on religious beliefs is for the religious. I obviously care about the religious effecting my life but if anything I want the exact opposite of what you think I want to do. The religious pass laws for no good reason all the time, that is WHY I feel the need to argue.

No it isn't. It's called having a brain. It's caring about the world around us. Why should I care about the treatment of women in Saudi Arabia for instance? Well because I'm a human fucking being and realize that it's cruel and inhumane and nobody should ignore something so disgusting. You just didn't like what he said and therefore tried to discredit it with nothing.

No , your point was the exact opposite. You straight up told him that his way of viewing the world was incorrect.

Yes, yes that is what you were doing. When you use such a ridiculous argument as BUH YOUR MEAN SO THEREFORE YOU WANT TO PASS LAWS AGAINST US , that's when you should know that you're being a cry baby and aren't actually arguing. You're jumping to conclusions because you don't like what we're saying.

It's a fair assumption. But if you say you don't feel that way then I believe you.

Again, fuck you.

The people of Saudi Arabia should worry about changing that, not you.

I know what my point was. I was saying that his view wasn't the absolute correct way to view it, not that it was wholly wrong.

I'm not religious. If you want to quote my actual words and call that ridiculous, fine, but you constantly reduce people to petty children crying when they disagree with you.

Whatever, I don't give a fuck about your attempts to invalidate to me.

We shouldn't talk about human rights issues, because they belong in different geographic locations. Is that the logic you're trying to convey to me right now? Legit?

I said that it is not something you should be worrying about changing, not talking about. The personal beliefs of Americans regarding evolution is not a humans right issue however. If the people of America want creationism taught along side evolution then that is just fine. Now, you being an American (I'm assuming), you definitely should voice your opinion about it being taught in schools. But someone from Germany complaining about it is just obnoxious.

I personally find it insulting to those who experience these issues for me to have an opinion on them. It's not my problem, and I am in no place to judge.

He's canadian.

As I said, I care about people. Especially those poor children that would be taught that crap.... And I really don't care if you think I should have an opinion about that.

That's a good way to articulate how I feel.

Oh, well, never mind.

That's fine with me, but if you feel the need make a comment about "facepalming" when you see how many people thought creationism should be taught alongside evolution then I'll probably call you out on it.

This thread is so special.

So, if I am against china`s bad labor conditions, you would think it's silly, because it's so far away?
With that logic, why on earth should anybody care about what happens in other country's?