Let Us Celebrate with a WORLD WAR!!!

Discussion in 'Historical Events Coffee House' started by Ozan, Jun 9, 2012.

  1. Shisno Doesn't know who did this

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    No. France wanted revenge on Germany, plain as that. They used the opportunity of Germany coming to Austria's aid to declare war on Germany. They wanted Alsace-Lorraine and they wanted their revenge.
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    Why should I tell you?
    I think that if the Netherlands reacted to the British blockade with a trade embargo, Germany had a latger chance of winning.
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    What the hell are you talking about?
  4. DUTCHSOCIALIST!!!! Member

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    During WW1 the Netherlands were neutral. We even gave both sides the same amount of trade goods (coal, wood food etc). At some point in the war the Brits started to force us into giving them more the Germans less. This was actually a act of war, so we could have set a tradeembargo on the allies. Germany would get much more rescources because of this.
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    So. It would hardly end up mattering. The Brits would end up blockading you, and if you declared war, you really couldn't do much.
  6. thelistener Well-Known Member

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    @Shisno napoleon was French, he was born 3 years after Corsica became part of France. Meaning he was as much a Corsican as a dude who was born in US is Chinese because he's parents came from china....

    @UtterlyImpeccable were you implying that Wellington and nelson were fighting against a man who wanted to take over the world? In the Napoleonic wars, napoleon defended 90% of the time, against other nations aggression. Only reason many don't remember that is because napoleon remembered the old proverb: "attack is the best defense"

    Edit. Perhaps I am bit late for the party, but I had to grab on to these outrages acts of stupidity.
  7. UtterlyImpeccable Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps not the whole world, but he certainly invaded Spain, Portugal, Russia, Italy, Poland and much of Germany. I think that constitutes as quite a lot of the world.
  8. battleearl Well-Known Member

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    Almost the entirety of Europe...

    Also: 1400th post!
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  9. thelistener Well-Known Member

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    Gaining Italy,Poland and Germany were results of other nations declaring war on napoleon. Napoleon didn't just stay in France and try to defend, he decided to march and fight them on their own soil were they least expected. Like in battle of austerlitz. And the reason napoleon got stuck in Iberian peninsula was because he tried to find a way to make UK surrender. UK declared war on France and napoleon tried to find a way to make them surrender: the trade embargo.

    Napoleons conquest of Russia was a preemptive strike, Russia was planning to declare war on France because Russian trade embargo against UK (which the czar was willing to do after napoleon defeated him in Prussia) was hurting Russian economy. So they decided to declare war on French AGAIN. Napoleon just was ahead of time and managed to declare first. That's why he is remembered as the conquer of Russia..

    Basically my point being, napoleon didn't want to conquer the world :p
  10. UtterlyImpeccable Well-Known Member

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    I think my comment was a bit silly in the first place, now I look back.

    But even if it was only preemptive strikes and trying to force trade embargoes, he still invaded countries. Do you think if he had won the war he would have given back all the land he took from various countries or not? But then, that's a slightly different topic.
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    He properly would have made puppet states from conquered country's. Then again nobody can really complain about that when they declared war on France in the first place. He did give Poland independence as a matter of fact.. (Too tired to continue further)
  12. Ozan Is Mobblaster

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    I like the perspective Dutch has on the... er... Dutch. >.>

    And as for Napoleon, its interesting how he accidentally conquered most of Europe. Europe just HAPPENED to be in his way. :3

    I jest, I jest, but I do feel Napoleon did intend on expanding. Not solely in Europe, either, but that has yet to be known.
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    I don't think he went to Egypt just for the lulz
  14. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Actually I'm 100% that he did.
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    What makes you so sure?
  16. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Vulcan told me.
  17. Ozan Is Mobblaster

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    Well, I have to rule in favor of VS. Arguments against those who are 'numba' one tend to be faulty at best.
  18. StephenColbert27 Active Member

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    Ah, that's settled then. He's always right. And he is NUMBA ONE!
  19. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    France joined because they were allied to Russia. Britain joined because they were allied to both of them. Germany encouraged Austria to declare war.
    He invaded Italy? The French Republic ordered him to take command in Italy when they were being attacked by the first (or second) coalition. Poland considered him a liberator. Prussia declared war on him. Russia was kinda a pre-emptive strike, because it was pretty clear they were going to declare war on him. It was only a matter of who was going to declare war on who first. The only thing I will give you is Spain and Portugal.

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