Modern Day Brazil

Modern day Brazil is a growing nation, that has a lot going for itself. Brazil possesses many deposits of strategic industrial minerals such as iron, manganese, uranium, bauxite, copper, lead, tungsten, zinc gold, etc, while creating a good industrial capacity. Brazil is also notably a self reliant nation in energy drilling its own oil, and is currently the world's fifteenth largest petroleum producer. Economically Brazil is expanding ounce again. It has already passed Canada as second largest economy in the Americas, while it is predicted to be the world's fourth largest economy, outranked only by China, the US and India (in that order). (Brazil is already the 5th largest.) Brazil's GDP is $ 2.088 trillion. Brazil Military is once again expanding. In south America there is no power that can compete with it, Argentina at one point in time did. However, since the late 90s when Argentina had its government collapse they simply cannot compete the way they ounce could. Politically Brazil is lacking in what it could be.


What is everyone's thoughts?


BRAZIL'S LAND ARMY:

Total Land Weapons: 8,469
Tanks: 469
APCs / IFVs: 1,504
Towed Artillery: 741
SPGs: 112
MLRSs: 200
Mortars: 3,398
AT Weapons: 2,045
AA Weapons: 3,676
Logistical Vehicles: 9,538



BRAZIL'S NAVAL POWER

Total Navy Ships: 106
Merchant Marine Strength: 126
Major Ports & Terminals: 11
Aircraft Carriers: 1
Destroyers: 0
Submarines: 5
Frigates: 9
Patrol Craft: 36
Mine Warfare Craft: 6
Amphibious Assault Craft: 5


BRAZIL'S AIR POWER

Total Aircraft: 817
Helicopters: 250
Serviceable Airports: 4,072

I don't think they will ever be a superpower. At least not in the military sense. Economically, it's possible. But not in the military sense of it.
You spelled modern wrong.

Wow that was dumb of me, can someone fix that please? @Chives @D3adtrap @pedro3131

In what way can they not militarily? There population is 200 million people, they are not lacking in manpower or workforce.

I do guarantee one thing, they will be at least a major power by 2100 if not a superpower.

I think they will be a major power, but I just don't think they can be a superpower.
I like the three way tie between superpower, major power, and regional power that's going on.

How won't they be a superpower? I agree Brazil being a major power is inevitable. They have the potential of being a superpower. They have large manpower, large workforce, and a shitload of natural resources. Everything else needed for a superpower can be built up by those 3 things over time, I ask by 2100 that gives them 90 years.

Because of the massive amount of influence that they would have to have to be a superpower. They don't have that, and I don't think that they will have it by 2100.

True, they have little influence in today's world, accept for economically.

Brazil could gain that influence if they wanted to however. Look at japan in the late 1800s early 1900s, and how fast they went from isolationist to having large influence in china and other countries in east Asia.

That is true, however Japan did that militarily, from invading countries like China and Manchuria. I don't think that Brazil is gonna invade other countries in South America. I just don't think they can get superpower status by 2100.

Everyone who says that Brazil or India are destined to become super powers during the next generation seem to forget that geographically, they're incomparable to the USA or the former USSR.
Both the USA and USSR (for grammatical simplicity, I refer to in the present tense), have an abundance and wide variety of natural resources, and plenty of arable and available land for crops and development.

A huge portion of Brazil is covered by a rain forest where literally everything is trying to kill you.
India is covered with jungles and mountains which make Soviet or American style development virtually impossible.

There's also the fact that Brazil and India both have a disproportionate amount of poverty compared to what the US has had throughout its history.

In the North, India is barely more developed than Afghanistan in some areas. Some villages still don't even have dirt roads leading in and out of them.
People like to think India is going to be the next superpower after China (Who themselves are far from this accomplishment) because India is democratic, has a huge workforce, a large service sector, and is already moderately industrialized.
But people don't like to know that just two years ago, hundreds of thousands of people from villages in the North of India either starved to death, or committed mass suicide because they had no grains to eat.
Not because there wasn't any grain to eat, but because it was sitting in warehouses to the South where it got spoiled in the rain.
They didn't get the grain they needed to survive because it was physically impossible to get it to them.
There were no roads for trucks to take it to them.
And there weren't enough trucks to take it to people they could reach.
There's more to being a superpower than military strength, industry, and volume.

To get a little closer to the topic, how do you think superpowers are made?
Let's look at four different superpowers throughout history.

Rome
What made Rome a superpower?
Conquest.
Plain and simple.
They conquered the entire Mediterranean and then some to become a superpower, millions of people died before the concept of millions of people dying was understandable.

The British Empire
What made Britain a superpower?
One thousand years of war and conquest.
They owned a fifth of the world and a quarter of the human population before they were called a superpower.
They fought a thousand wars wars against other Europeans and with nations abroad.
It took the Battle of Hastings to two world wars and everything between for Britain to be a superpower.
And their hegemony ended with the Suez Crisis because of the two superpowers that took it's place.

The United States & the U.S.S.R.
Seventy million people died so that these to states would be called superpowers.
For 45 years, the world lived with incessant fear that it would end today because these states coexisted.


A superpower is nothing more than a state that can destroy another without blinking.


Don't go around with your bullshit dreams of underdeveloped nations becoming superpowers.
Because one thing and one thing only defines a superpower.
War.
For Brazil to become a superpower, a hundred million people are going to die first.
So don't act like this is something the world should look forward to and be excited for.

There are other ways to gain influence. My country murika got large influence in the Americas in the late 1800's from overthrowing governments, and fueling rebels. Look at Columbia, marica supplied Panamanian rebels to free there country and build there canal.

I do not believe they will be a superpower, but I do believe they have the potential and so does India, China, Russia again, etc. I also think if Brazil would be a superpower, it will take MANY decades same goes for India. China and Russia it would take less time being they already have much political, economic, militaristic pull.


Brazil's nation is developing like nations once did. They are extracting there resources from the ground and creating there own industrial complex.

You completely and deliberately skipped over my point.

I didn't want to quote all of it, for I didn't address everything you said. I did talk of a subject without quoting it, my apologies.

I also agree that yes war to an extent makes superpowers.
Next question HOW does it make superpowers.
Answer: They gain resources needed to make a country strong.

As for how developed Brazil is I will ask you this. What if I told you all of North America was nothing but trees. I got a better one. What if I told you Japan was ounce a country that was living 400 years in the past while the rest of the world had railroads, steam boats, Gunpowder weapons, etc.

But it took World War II for us to become a superpower. Without World War II, we would never have become as powerful as we are today. I agree with what Chives said. Wars are what make superpowers.

The resources have to already be at their disposal.
War makes a super power because the superpower-to-be undermines all influence of competing states to the point that they are the only influence.

True.

So I guess that wraps this up. I'm going to go eat now.

No I want the people that voted regional power to explain it to me how they won't grow to major power or even great power status.

I almost forgot.

Meet @yuri2045.

So Yuri what potential do you think your country has? Whenever the hell you are next on.

Brazil who? Bitch please. Collapse,totally @yuri2045