Introducing social programs in a post-cold war america

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  1. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    We would have never done that. We spent a day on the Soviets and the entire time it was the teacher explaining to us why communism and socialism are authoritarian and never work.

    EDIT: I agree with Pedro, but I think this thread is not so much about the social policies and stuff rather than the way almost all American are opposed to anything that could be considered so much as slightly socialist or social liberal.
  2. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    It appears as though while I was gone a new generation of proto hominids has joined the forums to spew fiery shit from their mouths in the name of communist nazism. I shall fight on.
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    Thats just your teacher bro. I was taught the basis of both the acceptance of capitalism and communism by a populous, and the various atrocities both committed.
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    Yeah, that's one incident. It isn't universal. There are plenty of social-liberal teachers, trust me.
  5. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Bit that's impossible, because American schools are ran by retarded fascists, which proves that communism is just and right.
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    I wonder if you'd still be saying that while the red hordes are cannibalizing you at the behest of a populist demagogue.

    Remember folks: Social spending prevents class warfare.
    You can either pay your damn taxes, or spend the rest of your life in the collectivist nightmare that is The Peoples Revolutionary States of America.
  7. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Well, my teacher was the most insane history teacher ever. But that doesn't matter, because the worst part is a lot of other teachers felt the same way.
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    Mosh, it doesn't look like your teacher should be teaching history.
    How can the syllabus allow room for a teachers biased views and allow them to get away with it?
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    I doubt it. Your partially-developed red mind probably just associates all those who oppose you with the most extreme who oppose you.

    Because he lives in New Jersey.
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    Words of wisdom, folks. If it was good enough for Bismarck it's good enough for America.
  11. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    You mean like Social Security, hospitals, foster homes, agencies like the CPC, unemployment, public housing, worker's compensation, labor codes, disability, etc.

    And if this money is not coming from taxes, where should it come from.

    Yes, America has unions.
    Alot of unions.
    Would you like to borrow some?
    Please?

    Depends on where you go, but even in 'liberal' California you won't find many people openly endorsing anything that opposes it.

    The sad fact is that alot of the teachers that you see either were a part of or grew up under it. So they teach with it in mind to the impressionable students under their watch. Those students grow up to teach such to their children and other children (if they enter something like a teaching professsion). Thus, the cycle continues.

    The more frustrating part of it is that the students are blatently taught to hate Communism and Socialism regardless of what it is meant to be. In what I have seen of teacher conduct on the subject, most teachers don't even bother to teach what it is. If you presented the system under another name as it was meant to be, you would probably find that most students would not recognize it and possibly even agree with many of the principles that it puts forth.

    You see the problem most clearly in the political system present. The politicians throw the phrase 'Communist' and 'Socialist' around like AIDS at one another, even if the actions of the target in no way match the accusation. There are even instances where the actions outright oppose the description. Yet it is still used in such a manner.

    The point being that McCarthyism is alive and well in the United States.
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    Give them to France.

    They know how to use a union.

    EDIT: If you don't get the joke, it's another one of those European sterotypes Stalin was on about. The French go on strike all the time. Hell, it's not even a sterotype, it's true, even their footballers went on strike at the last world cup.
  13. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Yes.

    The people who support such social programs should take responsibility for them and pay for them themselves, instead of imposing their will upon others and robbing them of their money to support it under the guise of democracy. At the very least such programs should be the responsibility of local or state governments, since it's quite obvious that people from different places have different values and needs.



    Whoah, McCarthyism, eh? Be careful now, thats a strong word you got there, but I wasnt aware that we are putting politicians on trial and removing them from office for having affiliations with the communist party. I thought such practices ended more than half a century ago.
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    Except everybody will need healthcare at some time in their life. And how is taxing someone, to then later give them a vital operation, 'robbing'?
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    According to are lovely FascistPatriot schools are run by the liberal commies who try to justify communism to the masses.
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    McCarthyism - the practice of making accusations of disloyalty, especially of pro-Communist activity, in many instances unsupported by proof or based on slight, doubtful, or irrelevant evidence.
    Because that is supported by them.
    Yeah....yeah...no.
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    Because the federal government takes money from people without their consent.
    News flash- Contrary to popular belief, teachers are actually people,and thus have different beliefs. And some of these people are biased, who woulda guessed?
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    Fixed.
    You might want to address that to The One True American.

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