Why Charity Should Be Abolished

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by Frenzy, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. Cover Well-Known Member

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    Isn't it called Chemo therapy?
    I dunno, maybe it's a foreign thing
  2. Frenzy Member

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    The example you've given me Romulus, in fact precisely demonstrates my point.

    Put funding and subsidize big Pharmaceutical companies into developing new Chemotherapy medication (with the left hand), then implement financial support programs to help the cancer patients that need to pay $20 000 a month just to stay alive on that medication (with the right hand).
  3. Romulus211 Proconsul

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    That is correct i was wrong.

    Time and time again people are against new taxes, this money will come from taxpayers, whilst charities collect from philanthropists, and donators, personally in a modern day scenario with the way the US is now, there is no way social security will overtake charity as a way of helping the less fortunate.
  4. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    He wasn't talking about taxes or social security....
  5. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    So how then do you propose we find a cure for cancer? I don't know man those anger patients who you claim ate just having their suffering prolonged obviously don't mind, otherwise they wouldn't be taking the new drugs or performing the chemo, that you claim is "prolonging their suffering"
  6. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    We don't find a cure. As far as we know, Cancer is like viruses. It never leaves the body. You can simply beat it into submission and into a sort of sleep mode, but you can never cure it. Its like this with many diseases and conditions.
  7. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Nonsense, even if viruses don't have a cure yet with our current technology and understanding, everything has a cure. Maybe with our current technology there's no cure for cancer yet I firmly believe there will be one by the end of my lifetime.
  8. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    We've been looking for a cure to viruses since penicillin. We haven't managed to cure one yet. We have made vaccines, we have made medicine, but we've never found anything that can actually get rid of the virus short of destroying its host.
  9. Jingles Well-Known Member

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    Cancer is nothing like a virus, and theoretically is curable, but right now, we simply don't have the technology to make it possible. And quite apart from all this,


    Wrong. Groups like Cancer Research UK pour funding into a number of different research groups, including scientists researching the possibility of a cure for cancer. While I agree with the gist of what you're saying, you picked a poor example to illustrate it.
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    I get the whole idea and reasoning behind abolishing charity, but what should it be replaced(if at all?) or rather how should society accomodate itself to the new situation? And is the support given to undeveloped countries also considered charity? What about humanitarian organizations and groups? Should we let millions of people die just to prove a point while the world"adapts"?
    Theory is all well and good, but it has to be applied in reality at some point if the people behind it wants it to be considered a viable alternative.(well unless they're delusional)
  11. Skyicewolf City States Godmod Patrol

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    Humanity tried to fly for many centuries, and only succeeded with better technology. Don't just say that because we haven't succeeded in the last 50 years we've been trying, that it can never happen.
  12. Kali The World's Best Communist

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    Charities shouldn't be abolished because people should be free to spend their money how they want. Fucking leftists always trying to strip away our ability to do something because "it's for the greater good, after all". Goddamn you people.

    I've given to charities in the past, though I never expected my donation to save a life or anything. Of course, I've never given to something that's trying to distribute clean water or food in some third-world hellhole, either. On the one hand, I really don't see the point in doing that. Those people are living comparatively miserable lives, and by extending their miserable lives I'm only harming myself and the world. Of course, from their perspective, their lives probably aren't all that miserable. Even still, their lives potentially put a drain on resources, and they aren't contributing useful labor. As far as death checks go, we really can't ask for better candidates.
  13. Karakoran Well-Known Member

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    I refuse to trust anyone from Eastern Europe on how to run a country.

    Edit: Anyway he's not saying that charity should be disbanded. Fucking watch the video. He's saying that Capitalism is the route of the problem and all charity does is alleviate the problem a bit. But it doesn't solve the problem itself. He said pretty clearly, "We need to make a society where poverty is impossible." He's saying, "Fucking go Socialist you piece of shit" in a much more mild sense.

    This guy is a major Socialist spokesmen. To say he's against charity is ridiculous and you'd have to be stupid to draw that conclusion as the main point of the video.
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    I agree with the video insomuch as throwing aid and charity willy nilly into places like Africa is pointless and a waste of resources.
    However, it is wrong to say charity has never made a difference and can not do so more in the future, if it is implemented better.
    Charity can be far more constructive if it helps the poor to make a living, rather than than just giving them money and food.
    What has always struck me about sending aid to Africa is that people have been farming in Africa for hundreds of thousands of years, so now suddenly why they are unable to feed themselves seems extremely strange. So surely ensuring all people in Africa are capable of surviving a year of famine should be our first priority with that sort of charity.
    Also, abolishing charity now would be catastrophic. Here in the UK, charity donations fund things such as mountain rescue teams, medical research and guide dogs for the blind, none of which are what the man in the video talked of and none of which do anything but good.
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    Shut the fuck up.
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  17. Kali The World's Best Communist

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    How mature and witty.
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    Fucking Capitalists....
  19. Frenzy Member

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    I whole heartedly agree with you Karakoran. And do forgive me for the controversial title, I studied publicity for four years you see, and thought it apt to create a stir with such a provoking title =D.
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    lol communist.

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