Ancient History

Discussion in 'Historical Events Coffee House' started by GeneralofCarthage, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

    Member Since:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    9,153
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    In a cave,watching shadows (Plato reference)
    I often wonder what India will do or if it has a chance as super power status....most likely not.
  2. UnitRico Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Message Count:
    4,737
    Likes Received:
    1,339
    Trophy Points:
    193
    Location:
    Pangaea
    They have potential, just like Brazil. Both do have a long way to go, though.
  3. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

    Member Since:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    9,153
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    In a cave,watching shadows (Plato reference)
    like rising population, famine, Maoist rebels, and Pakistan.
  4. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

    Member Since:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Message Count:
    4,032
    Likes Received:
    621
    Trophy Points:
    183
  5. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

    Member Since:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    9,153
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    In a cave,watching shadows (Plato reference)
    What this is way on topic..... Everyone knows Chinese History repeats its self like crazy so what happens today will be exactly what happen to the Ming, Han, or Zhou dynatsys.
  6. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

    Member Since:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Message Count:
    4,032
    Likes Received:
    621
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Not really.
    The Nationalists and the Communists are hardly a repetition of what has already happened.
    And even if it was, remember, many of the Chinese Dynasties had the means and oppertunity to expand their power and influence WELL beyond the borders of China. They just didn't have the motivation to do it. They felt cozy where they were and content to deal with THEIR OWN PROBLEMS, not meddle in others'.
    FeyBart likes this.
  7. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

    Member Since:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    9,153
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    In a cave,watching shadows (Plato reference)
    Oh heck yeah they had the means to expand their power and influence, Just look at there freaking Treasure fleets at the time. They would make the Spanish gallons there bitch.
  8. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

    Member Since:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Message Count:
    4,032
    Likes Received:
    621
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Not really.
    It'd probably go more like this:
    Sailor: "Adrimal! We hit something!"
    Adrimal Zheng He: "Yeah, no durr! I felt it... what is it and how did we miss it?"
    Sailor: "It looks like a... is that a sail? The thing is so small! Are those bodies in the water and men screaming for help?"
    Adrimal Zheng He: "Hey! Look! We found gweilo-land!"
  9. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

    Member Since:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    9,153
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    In a cave,watching shadows (Plato reference)
    and then a message would go out to Adrimal Zheng He, that would read

    "Yo Zheng, there is this new thing called isolationism, everyone go back to China now.....No exploring for you.
    Imperial1917 likes this.
  10. battleearl Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Message Count:
    1,467
    Likes Received:
    258
    Trophy Points:
    143
    And hand over all your records...
    Imperial1917 likes this.
  11. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

    Member Since:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    9,153
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    In a cave,watching shadows (Plato reference)
    yeah that too, oh and kill some Buddhist on the way too.....woot Confucius ftw.
  12. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

    Member Since:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Message Count:
    4,032
    Likes Received:
    621
    Trophy Points:
    183
    True, true.
    Actually, if I recall correctly, this was a time of tolerance for Buddhism in China.
  13. battleearl Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Message Count:
    1,467
    Likes Received:
    258
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Zheng He was a Muslim. So how about Islam in those times...
  14. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

    Member Since:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Message Count:
    4,032
    Likes Received:
    621
    Trophy Points:
    183
    He was also a eunich in the service of the Emperor. After his people were conquered. Alore....

    And about the Confucius thing... if I recall correctly, he warned against the giving of power to eunichs.
    Viking Socrates likes this.
  15. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

    Member Since:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    9,153
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    In a cave,watching shadows (Plato reference)
    China says "What is this Islam of which you speak of?"
  16. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

    Member Since:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Message Count:
    4,032
    Likes Received:
    621
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Technically speaking China was well aware of Islam. Just that the monarchy didn't relly... well, bite.
  17. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

    Member Since:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    9,153
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    In a cave,watching shadows (Plato reference)
    It was implied sarcasm, infact Islam and China have had a big effect on each other.
  18. battleearl Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Message Count:
    1,467
    Likes Received:
    258
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Islam has been around in China since the 8th century...
  19. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

    Member Since:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    9,153
    Likes Received:
    1,487
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    In a cave,watching shadows (Plato reference)
  20. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

    Member Since:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Message Count:
    4,032
    Likes Received:
    621
    Trophy Points:
    183
    That is what I was saying.

Share This Page