Ancient History

Indeed, and it has been going way too off topic...

You guys really need to get back on topic.

If America didn't lose The Vietnam War then tell me, what did they stand to win?

I was never saying theory of evolution was wrong. Just saying that... Oh wait never mind open mindedness about other peoples ideas these days is over rated. If you never question anything (BTW I have read few of Richard dawkins book about evolution and he includes the birth of DNA to the theory of evolution. As we know he is well known biologist) you never make process. So please don't call generalofcarthage stupid just because he is skeptic you know that part of human nature

Now lets stop this offtopic shall we

Well we weren't in the war. It was to protect the people of Vietnam. In all honesty it was a war between South Vietnam and North Vietnam. That is basically what the Iraq War was.

I'll get back on-topic by saying that i've had enough of my 3000 word source analysis on Ancient Greece. However, there's still plenty to talk about in terms of Ancient Greece, such as widespread pederasty, Athenian prostitutes, and the Greeks generally disgusting (by our standards) sex lives. I have been most disappointed by the Ancient Greeks. When I studied them at primary school, they seemed so nice, with their philosophers and stone buildings and orange pots.

Now then . Question I have been pondering. Did the Persians win their battles just because they had more soldiers.

So basically how did the Persians Cain their empire

Yes achtung kommunisten we all find it very weird that some cultures actually endorse small junks. Makes you wonder how did they survive that long as a civilization.

I would say yes, although I don't know much. I think they were just much more willing to use mercenaries than most other rulers.

Tolerance is usually a big factor, conquered tribes and nations were usually left to govern themselves, if I remember correctly. This meant the Persians could call upon a lot of men. The problem was that as soon as they felt like it, nations could easily get their independence.

And as for the university list, I must say I'm surprised at how high the Dutch universities are ranked. On the other list that I believe we both posted, the highest Dutch rank was around 209, and now, they're up a lot higher. Just something I noticed.

As for the slave thing, Roman and Greek slaves, even though they were still slaves, were a lot freer than the slaves that were used by the West.

My point was that not all Americans are stupid. I think you Europeans should be proud of us considering we descended from you and we are doing better than most of your countries.

Doing better? In what regard? If we're (as Europeans) ultimately responsible for the actions of the US, and all other American countries, we were definitely the biggest dicks that have ever walked the Earth. Yes, we would've also brought the most knowledge and prosperity to the world, but at what cost?

I guess the fact the Yankees have managed to get in on a thread called 'ancient history' is proof of their victory. This is what we get for not keeping our colonists under control.

Let's just hope we can still say that once the US, China and India are done swinging theirs around.

I'm sorry GeneralofCarthage, but you really just need to stop. All you're doing is making the rest of us Americans look like idiots. (and we don't need anymore people doing that). Just get back to the topic of Ancient history and end this.

Doing better? In what reguard? Look at your society. Look at your people. Hell, feel free to look at yourself. You, as a nation, might view yourselves as Gods motherfucking gift to the planet but you are not. You have the worst history on the fucking planet. You are the most selfish nation on the planet. You are the most polluting nation on the planet. You are the nation that has come closest to causing World War 3. You are home to the most fucking retarded people on the planet. Yet, despite all this, you boast about how great your country is. Get this. Every. Nation. On. The. Planet. Fucking. Hates. You.

I have no special love for the US, but I feel that I must point some stuff out:

How in the world do you measure that?

Untrue. There are other countries that make no attempt at all to seem as if they are trying to help, nor do they actually help directly. China is one example of this.

Check out China and India. Pretty sure that they pollute more or are on their way to doing so.

Now, that is just a low shot. It doesn't help your argument at all, nor can you stipulate that as a proven/provable fact.

The US is certainly not the greatest nation, but neither is it the worst. And does it surprise you that they consider themselves the best? Don't you consider your country better? Doesn't everyone consider their chosen countries better than others?

How do you measure that? And what proof do you have of that?

I dislike the US and even have said that I hate it. I have said that everyone hates the US. But I know that 'hate' is an exaggeration in both instances.

From what I learned (which is very little) the Persians basically got their empire through other groups willingly assimilating with them. They controlled the silk road, so joining them would be profitable. Also, they offered protection from raiders and such, so it seemed like the right choice to join them willingly rather than face them in a futile war. Then they invaded Greece...

America neither won nor lost the Vietnam Conflict

A very true statement indeed. They did have a few military conquests here and there but not many. The Persians were probably one of the best countries EVER in diplomacy and ruling people. If I lived in the ancient times I would have liked to live in Persia more than Greece due to freedom.