[yt:3dodez6k]4oHJdExa2jc[/yt:3dodez6k] I feel Atheism and rationalism go hand-in-hand. But I understand how a theist can become annoyed by an atheist with an elitist attitude.
I think somebody can still believe in a Deity, but still be a Rational. I'm a Deist, I believe that their is a god out there, just not of our earth. I also believe he didn't create the Universe, but rather was created with it.
Thats fucking stupid. Why would anyone ever thing that? Religion exists to explain the existence of the world, but yours does not. Religion survives based on faith, but your god has nothing to be faithful about. So, it didn't create anything, doesn't have anything to do with us, has no followers, no evidence supporting it, and yet you still believe in it. Even better, this is a seemingly original idea, which means you got up one day, and decided to create your own god to believe in. I can't think of anything more irrational than that. So, I'm sorry, but you aren't helping your cause here. Oh, and I didn't notice this at first, but if he was "created with the universe" that means another God exists who first created him along with the universe. Also, you aren't a deist. Deists believe that [spoiler:1uf2za3n]"Deism in the philosophy of religion is the standpoint that reason and observation of the natural world, without the need for organized religion, can determine that a supreme being created the universe. Further the term often implies that this supreme being does not intervene in human affairs or suspend the natural laws of the universe. Deists typically reject supernatural events such as prophecy and miracles, tending to assert that God (or "The Supreme Architect") has a plan for the universe that is not to be altered by intervention in the affairs of human life. Deists believe in the existence of God without any reliance on revealed religion, religious authority or holy books. This idea is also known as the Clockwork universe theory, in which God designs and builds the universe, but steps aside to let it run on its own. Two main forms of deism currently exist: classical deism and modern deism."[/spoiler:1uf2za3n]
I didn't say my god does nothing. I believe he creates the worlds, and just lets nature run it's course. I don't claim I know everything about my god, and I probably never will. I just know that it isn't like any belief of our world.
He created the world, but he's not of our world, and he didn't create the universe, but something else did, which also created him, and you made him up yourself. I'd like to know how the fuck you reached that conclusion, and why you decided to start your own religion. seems to me that you aught to be an agnostic.
Atheism shouldn't have a thread. Its like if someone made a thread for people that don't believe in unicorns.
Atheism in the sense that people around here like to use it (the incorrect form), that means one simply doesn't explicitly believe in a god, is purely rational. The kind that some around here quite obviously are (actual atheists or strong atheists as some call them), who are anti-theistic and make the claim that there is definitively no god are just as irrational as us religious folk. Personally I don't trust pure reason and I don't much care for it. It all depends on the framework you use to determine the validity of a claim; positivists just happen to use the current 'base' framework and thus get to be called objectively rational. But if the base changes, the claim changes. I'm quite confident that the base will change, but probably not within my lifetime. Live it up while you can, mangy dogs ye.
If there is a higher deity, it's probably some horrific Lovecraftian spawn beyond imagination and comprehension that drives men to insanity and suicide. People think I'm weird when I say that so I just say Atheist because religion seems to be dying out in the UK. I wouldn't be surprised if kids got bullied en masse in this country nowadays for believing in God. I dislike when people say "there is no God" as if they have personally travelled though all of space and time before reaching that conclusion. It's the kind of thing you might expect from someone walking out of a time machine, their hair white with shock after witnessing eternity.
I believe it is not of any world, actually. It is a supreme deity, being who creates life, and brings the end. But in between the two events, he simply waits. I don't know how it operates, it's just my view on the concept of god.
Because I can't accept that everything in this universe is a coincidence, and all the religions of our planet a too silly.
Think about it. According to modern Science, practically everything sprang from nothing. How did the one celled organisms that eventually evolved into us come to be? Was it a coincidence? Did they get transferred from somewhere else? In that case how did they get there?
Think about it. According to modern Science, practically everything sprang from nothing. How did the one celled organisms that eventually evolved into us come to be? Was it a coincidence? Did they get transferred from somewhere else? In that case how did they get there?[/quote:3pvtbrzu] conspiracy hat ftw
Think about it. According to modern Science, practically everything sprang from nothing. How did the one celled organisms that eventually evolved into us come to be? Was it a coincidence? Did they get transferred from somewhere else? In that case how did they get there?[/quote:iqjoi5zl] Those questions can just as easily be applied to the existence of a god. Simply saying 'god did it' answers nothing because you still have to explain how god came to be.
As I explained, I believe god came to be along with the creation of the universe, as opposed to have created it.
