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  1. Kalalification Guest

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    Taxes run about 46% of gross income... That's about as painful as it gets.

    School is not meant for everybody. Something like 60% of people drop out after the first semester of college due to failing grades, so supporting a state-run option would not only require massive tax hikes, but would fail to produce a very meaningful result. Public schools don't teach virtually anything that you learn at college; there might be some similarities in beginning math or science courses, but even then it's barely connected.

    It makes more sense to require that only people planning on school should actually have to pay for it; I certainly wouldn't want to dump huge amounts of money into government coffers so that Joe Nobody could go to college for free. Higher education is not a natural right, it's a privilege—one that can be accessed by anyone provided they are willing to work for it.
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    If it is anything like here in Germany, which i think it is, than that is only for the people who earn a lot. Don't know the exact numbers. The more you earn the higher the percentage you pay. For those people that earn a lot of money 46% is not that painful. Poorer People pay way less.
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    graduated Income Tax. America has it too. But I think the ayment for the highest bracket is something like 22%. I could be wrong.
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    Its around 37.5 or 35 (Obama let the Bush tax cuts expire right?)
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    [/quote]
    If it is anything like here in Germany, which i think it is, than that is only for the people who earn a lot. Don't know the exact numbers. The more you earn the higher the percentage you pay. For those people that earn a lot of money 46% is not that painful. Poorer People pay way less.[/quote]

    graduated Income Tax. America has it too. But I think the ayment for the highest bracket is something like 22%. I could be wrong.[/quote]

    Its around 37.5 or 35 (Obama let the Bush tax cuts expire right?)[/quote]

    No, I believe they were extended. Again could be wrong.
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    If it is anything like here in Germany, which i think it is, than that is only for the people who earn a lot. Don't know the exact numbers. The more you earn the higher the percentage you pay. For those people that earn a lot of money 46% is not that painful. Poorer People pay way less.[/quote]

    graduated Income Tax. America has it too. But I think the ayment for the highest bracket is something like 22%. I could be wrong.[/quote]

    Its around 37.5 or 35 (Obama let the Bush tax cuts expire right?)[/quote]

    No, I believe they were extended. Again could be wrong.[/quote]

    So then it's 35....
    pedro3131, Mar 2, 2011
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    Direct taxes are 6.5- 30% highly vary from every individual. -Worldwide-taxe.com Average tax rate for average "Joe" is aprox. 22%

    -Kristi McCracken, author of two children’s books and a long time teacher in the South Valley

    This is what happens, if we go by your style.
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    Basic education is requared from everysingle one, secondary is optional but highly recomended and "Higher education" is for people who have worked their asses off. In your system you would let in only people who can afford it, in our we let in everyone who is worthy of getting the place. You do have to have good grades to get better education and advance further.
    D3adtrap, Mar 3, 2011
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    Exactly and for some reason, the teachers still dont think they get enough! If anyone is following the situation in Wisconsin, it is ridiculous in my opinion. They dont care if the government can pay for it, they dont want a single right of their union taken away. Its not that the government wants to its that if we dont have the money for something how are we frieking supposed to pay for it
    slydessertfox, Mar 3, 2011
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    The point of unions is to defend the rights of the worker. They're going to fight for want they want. It is stupid to think the the removal of union power is good for the economy.
    CoExIsTeNcE, Mar 3, 2011
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    Unions are bad for the economy. Unions are good for workers rights. There is a disunion between the two ideas on the most fundamental of macro questions.
    pedro3131, Mar 4, 2011
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    Could be considered good because they attempt to prevent the working poor.
    CoExIsTeNcE, Mar 4, 2011
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