Is Ignorance Banable

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  1. matthewchris Guest

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    Because a peaceful world in ideal circumstances would be a horrible thing right? Fuck the idea of no more death and suffering by the barrel of a gun!
  2. Karakoran Well-Known Member

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    ???

    I'm saying that those are the worst examples and that they responded irrational due to the bad circumstances and that when thigns died down they got better. That's not very "sick" even if you disagree.

    Ok let me break down your arguement:

    Because you can read my mind...
    Really? I had no idea I was the only one that thought the Mona Lisa was done better than that two headed snake rock(yes, I understand the religious context). Go ahead, enlighten me.
    A third of your post was saying you know my thoughts, another third was calling my arguement bullshit, only a bit a third was a point.
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    The UN is reasonable because it respects national sovereignty. Internationalists want nothing to do with national sovereignty.
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    No, fuck an ideology that lives up in the clouds pretending that if they stop shooting back, the other side will too.

    Pacifism takes credit for what logic and reasoning have done. Peace in Europe? Sure as hell wasn't Code Pink that fixed it.
  5. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    So things need to be solved with violence.
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    Really? I had no idea I was the only one that thought the Mona Lisa was done better than that two headed snake rock(yes, I understand the religious context). Go ahead, enlighten me.
    A third of your post was saying you know my thoughts, another third was calling my arguement bullshit, only a bit a third was a point.[/quote:2qwe2zyb]

    I'm not sure why you are so set on native art involving rocks. Actually look at some that isn't on rocks and tell me some isn't just as beautiful as European art. But I will play along with your vision of native art. Art is all about what the beholder finds pleasing. So if I don't find the Mona Lisa pleasing compared to my drawing on cave walls, does that make me inferior? Because my opinion is different?
  7. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalism_(politics)
    Here's a reference point for you. Not everything is about communism.
  8. Link NO SWAG

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    You realize that there is no such thing as "culturally advanced". There are different cultures and they don't all head to the same place.
  9. Kalalification Guest

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    Look at your own info, man:
    I don't buy that "citizen of the world" crap. Nor do I at all desire a supernational government. Voluntary associations that are binding only to members and only by consent are fine.
  10. Karakoran Well-Known Member

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    Native American art:
    [spoiler:mdjndjnv][IMG][/spoiler:mdjndjnv]
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    European art:
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    Well it's your opinion, but I doubt the Native Americans all made a concious decision to make the prestate arts. They would've taken something (or invented another, equally good system) like the European/Asian artwork if they knew it existed.

    Also, first page of Google and this is the second time I've had to type this out due to lag.
  11. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    To me art is something that has a meaning and Native art has a meaning you just don't understand it.
  12. Surfusa Lost in space-time

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    Isn't this a bit off topic... And to the UN note, it's his opinion... (that isn't extreme about killing a race or culture)
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    They each develop complex systems of art and traditions and stuff like that.

    The Natives weren't as developed. They were comprable to the "Old Kingdom" of Egypt vs. 1700s Europe.
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    You post 2 fucking examples out if all their artwork and call that an argument? FUck you.
    And what is aesthetically pleasing isn't what is artistically superior. There is a difference between a drawing or painting and art, and the line between the 2 is subjective.
  15. Surfusa Lost in space-time

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    Isn't this a bit off topic... And to the UN note, it's his opinion... (that isn't extreme about killing a race or culture)
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    Once again you are assuming the natives would have found the European art more attractive and would have switched to a whole new trend of art. And I honestly find the mask a lot more impressive than a painting of some fruit. That doesn't require any real mastery of brush skills or woodworking to accomplish while a mask like that does.

    It's art. How can you say the meaning and traditions of their art wasn't as advanced if they felt they were drawing real meaning from it?
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    The Natives are far more advanced than we will ever be simply because they didn't fucking kill everything they came across.
  18. Link NO SWAG

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    Both the old kingdom of egypt and the natives had complex systems of art and tradition. The only difference between them is technological advancement and race, and you're a fucking racist, whether you'll admit it or not. Open racism is better than closet racism.
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    Each culture is different and is rich in it's own way you are just blind to that fact.
  20. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    I mainly wanted to point out this:
    And about that whole world government thing:
    This is my position.
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