Libya Superthread

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by noelsoong, Feb 17, 2011.

  1. Kalalification Guest

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    How. Exactly how. In what possible way is this an imperialist venture?

    NATO is enforcing a UN mandate here. It's already been agreed upon by the world community, or at least accepted with passive indifference, that Gadaffi was treating his citizens like garbage to be disposed of. Before the rebellion started.

    And exactly how has the AU been cast aside here? There was plenty of time for action on their part, NATO didn't intervene until much later in the conflict.

    @Che
    There is no such thing as a counter-revolution. Revolution simply exists to change the government, it doesn't matter what the government calls itself.
  2. CheFlegel New Member

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    It is surprising how many people think they are experts on Libya without even reading The Green Book....
  3. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Che's got Green Red and motherfucking rainbow books.

    And I agree with Kal, anyone who thinks this is imperialist is fooling themselves. Just because the US touches something doesn't all of a sudden make it an imperialist venture.
  4. CheFlegel New Member

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    Tell that to the thousands of Libyans civilians that have died from NATO bombs now.

    If Libya were to fall there would be dozens of military bases set up by NATO powers, the entire oil industry would be privatized and shipped off to company's such as BP.

    Tell me again, how is that not Imperialism.
  5. sirdust Well-Known Member

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    The oil will be handled through the same company called Tamoil. But instead benefiting just ghadaffi (who stole billions of dollars from the lybian people) it will benefit all of lybia.
  6. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    I saw an article an AJE about how Loyalists dressed up the bodies of soldiers in civilian clothing to make NATO look bad. Can somebody help me find it? I saw it yesterday...
  7. CheFlegel New Member

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    Yeah, damn Gaddafi for putting the oil money into education (including paying for education abroad), healthcare (that surpassed America's might I add), roads, man made rivers, water supplies, subsidizing cars, subsidizing food, creating the highest life expectancy in Africa, one of the lowest unemployment ratings in all Arabic nations, and beating several European nations, damn that man to hell for nationalizing the oil so it went to the country, it should be privatized so the oil goes to a few right?
  8. sirdust Well-Known Member

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    Yea prais the poor man who put large sums of the oil money in the pockets of himself, his family and friends. Look while this all is true, you of all people should not tollerate somebody stealing from the people. You are the guy who prais a man who stole billions of dollars directly from the people, aren't you some sort of socialist, isn't that a crime in your world view?
    Look just because he did something good doesn't make all the bad things irrelevant. Also the man was in power for 41 years and became one of the richest people in africa while in power.
  9. crocve Well-Known Member

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    Oh, really? Yes, Libya is a very modernized country. We can actually with their vast desert landscape. And he didn´t European nations. He commited acts of terrorism.
  10. CheFlegel New Member

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    Obviously I was talking about employment you retard. Also you are blaming Gaddafi for Libya having deserts? I didn't realize Gaddafi was supposed the be a holy deity that could shift the lands to his will with the brush of his hands.
  11. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Che with the insults, man, can't you ever have a civil debate?
  12. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Sooooooooo all those Libyan CITIZENS that started protests BEFORE NATO had any plan to intervene were started by a bug UN/NATO conspiracy. I think people on this forum would be more willing to accept aliens visiting us before they will ever believe this
  13. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    How many times do I have to say it,
    WE ARE THE FUCKING ALIENS
  14. CheFlegel New Member

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    The rebels were about to lose, it was not a popular revolution, even Mayor admitted that. The rats wouldn't have lasted a week without NATO illegally intervening.

    @Shaw, That would be pointless, you people are the pathetic type that do not deserve such things, if I had my way those who actually went out of their way to support imperialism and be blind would be shot, which includes almost everyone on this forum.
  15. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    It was still a REVOLUTION. NATO did not stage the revolution
  16. CheFlegel New Member

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    I can't get 10% of the population of Canada together and call it a revolution.
  17. Lenin Cat Well-Known Member

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    NOBODY HAS ANY IDEA OF THE SUPPORT THE REBELS OR GADDAFI HAVE. There have been no polls, no estimates, no etc.
  18. CheFlegel New Member

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    "The proof is in the pudding." The rebels were losing horribly, in no way shape or form could you call it a popular revolution. I am also still pretty disgusted that I see someone with a red star defending these rebels.
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    Correction: people who promote hate, violence, who believe in a idiotic ideology (stalinist, I think what you are) and cannot participate in a proper debate are the ones who are pathethic.

    NATO actually acted well. They did well in not sending ground troops (because even I think even the rebels would be against the sneding of ground forces), because they could not risk another front, this time in Africa. The inetervetion was caused by a UN resolution, it wasnt illegal.

    But as always, the extreme-left as to bash everyone who are against tiranny (which is what they support).
  20. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    The only reason they were losing is because Gadaffi sent tanks and planes. The amount of people protesting (which is how this started out) does not have anything to do with if they were winning or not because the only REAL reason they were losing was because they had nothing to combat tanks and planes

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