Libya Superthread

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by noelsoong, Feb 17, 2011.

  1. CheFlegel New Member

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    Lenin fought against Russia who even had support from the UK to fight off the Bolsheviks.

    Castro started the revolution of Cuba with 23 people and no accessible way to destroy any armored vehicles.

    Mao went from around three provinces to all of China.

    You were saying uneducated child?
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    There is a difference betwen being popular and being militarily capable. Gunning down civilians who where not organized nor armed makes ghadaffi hardly more popular. The idea that a military inferior movement is less popular is simply bullshit. Give me 500 infantry and 20 tanks and i will be able to controll a population of 10000 people easily against their will. Does this make me automaticly more popular then the 10000 people who stand against me? The answer is obvious for everybody smart enough? I would think about that a little more before making this bullshit argument, but i guess you don't have to care about credibility on this forum anymore, since everybody thinks you are a lunatic.
  3. CheFlegel New Member

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    Again, Castro, 23 people, ended up defeating the Cuban Government and Military which I can guarantee you had far superior equipment to 23 people.
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    Good point Lenin. Until we get some figure all we are going on is videos of large groups from either side.
  5. CheFlegel New Member

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    1/6th of the entire population at once.
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  6. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    I doubt that was a million people
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    Again, just a video, no figures.
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    It goes all the way from Green Square to the outskirts of the city.
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    A video showing tons of people does not automatically mean there are a million. How do they know its a million people?
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    9+ Kilometers of people, if anything that is over 1 million. Stop trying to be a smart ass kid, you are just another fucking retard.
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    why because Im trying to get you to present proof that this is a million men? Im not saying it isnt, I just want you to show me how you can prove that this is 1 million men
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    There's no conclusive numbers and there's no telling that they all actually support Gaddafi.
  13. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    It's one million men because Gaddafi said it was, goddammit!
    Stop asking questions and let the state think for you!
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    I'm an independent and as a North African I'm outraged how NATO gets off the right to blast African countries. If the AU bombed Athens or any European city or country the entire AU would be made to eat shit and paraded through Rome as trophies.

    How can NATO support something that it helped come into fruition? When the same Monarchy has that oh so adorable white and delightsome prince and princess who's ancestry is guilty of much of the chaos and dictatorships in the Middle East?

    The only reason this passed through UN measures is due to Russian/Chinese lack of fortitude. They cannot risk openly disagreeing with NATO time and time again and so let them do as they damn please. Up until then Libya as a country was making a lot of progress. Ghadaffi brought irrigation to desert areas and was spending the oil wealth on the country, Libya's infrastructure was on par with the Gulf States. How is this in any way reminiscent to Egyptian/Tunisian revolutions where outright people exploded in rage in the capitols asking for reform living in far worse conditions than Libyans? Didn't you find it funny the West supported Mubarak staying in power?

    The West knew Ghadaffi would not solicit oil to them and so he had to go. And yet the same West that caused the genocides in Rwanda didn't care. The 3 million massacred in the Congo due to dictators left by the Belgians? Didn't care. And now? All of a sudden NATO tries to do right and care by bombing a country with a leader that had one of the lowest corruption indexes in all of Africa? What right is NATO trying to do other than liberate oil? Only the fool takes things at the surface and formulates it into something they willingly wish to believe.

    You cannot sit here and argue to me that NATO intervened to save the Libyan people, there's an underlying factor behind this, because that's really the only time the West intervenes in a global event.

    And if you think the Rebels are looking to save Libya, look at their treatment of Blacks and how many lynchings have gone on to Chadians and Mauritanians in that country before you do so.

    Oh wait forgot, that doesn't matter...
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    If Gadaffi says its one million than its fucking one million! Stop being retards and understand that Gadaffis word is like God
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    Ah yes you bring up the same video with the same nonsense again and again and again. Look no matter how many times you bring up bullshit it doesn't make it more true. It is you who artgument like a kid, repeat the same bs that has ben discussed multiple times followed up by personal insults. It makes you look like a angry 10 year old, whos in complete denial of the fact that his glorious brother leader is nothing more then a thief and a murderer.
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    Just ignore the fact that Gadaffi bombed his own people. Just ignore the fact that NATO hasnt done more than air strikes. Just ignore that the Libyan people ASKED for NATO help. Just ignore that Russia is probably the most corrupt government on the planet.
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    Believe me, I have given these same arguments to these people many times, especially the Africans being killed on a racial basis, these people obviously do not care about them due to them being African.
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    So now were racists.
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    He bombed rebels who wanted to make their way to Tripoli in a path of warpath and blood. Oh what an awful person but when someone like this does it...

    It's ok! I love how dismissive Westernized brainwashed people can become. Air strikes they just bombed locations. They just bombed soil that legitimately does not belong to them. That's all they did, nothing more other than bomb civilian centers and soil that doe snot belong to them. Where in the hell do you get off?
    The Rebels did not ask for NATO's help, NATO was more than welcome to assists them! I'm sure NATO had this in the books longer than you can remember oh boy this must have been a dream come true! Yet we didn't find an outcry of Libyan dissidents before, and I'm sure your happy Western ass wasn't feeling compassion or even knew where Libya was on the map before you felt sympathy for them. This is another attempt at neo-Colonialism because the AU even stated they did not support any sort of bombings by NATO on African soil. Yet NATO has the right to do anything it damn well please.

    Namely support a war in a country many in the West likely would not have located on a map.

    Damn straight. And if you don't believe Che who's not African believe me who is. Our lives are placed so low in your eyes if not consciously than subconsciously. Gaza bombings are ok, Palestinian replacement is ok, those dying in the Congo and Darfur is ok. We weren't outraged when that happened, but when a couple of greedy dissidents in the remote part of a 5 million person country in the western borders in a nation that has oil wants power that is not ok.

    Syrian government and dictator Assad fired on his people - no outrage. Bahrain fired on their people as did Yemen - ok. Ghadaffi in a place where we can potentially extract oil and people rising up against him - not ok.

    I mean it's not a conspiracy theory, it cannot be dismissed it's right in front of us. And yet all of you are going to sit here applauding Western actions acting as if they give a damn? Like have I gone crazy here or what!?

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