Libya Superthread

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by noelsoong, Feb 17, 2011.

  1. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    I have a problem with this video with the fact that I can not find it on CNN. I have spent about the last hour debating with people in the comments so far the score is:
    Obs - 3
    Gaddafi Supporters - 0
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    Is Gadaffi dead yet?
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    Nope, he's like SovietEmpireUSSR still in denial.

    Dude, this news is from back in July, maybe even before. It's not current news. Gaddafi lost, it's that simple.
  4. SovietEmpireUSSR Well-Known Member

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    You had me this times guys, i generally thought that was pretty recent, but Observer pointed out it was old. I guess Gaddafi is finished, well i actually haven't been catching up on the whole Libyan civil war since really it's boiled down a little bit, just nothing really major going on at the moment. I guess in the near future we will be focusing on the issues in Syria. I wonder how things are going to turn out there.
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    There is still Sirte and Bani Walid and Southern Libya for Gaddafi Loyalists.

    But other than that, yeah Gaddafi does not have the foothold he need to keep Libya at the moment.
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    Well the cities are surrounded and will soon fall. Also there is nothing in the South except for desert so I highly doubt they will go there.
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    The Loyalists are putting up good defense though in those few towns or whatever. Rebels most likely have the upper hand, but the Loyalists will fight to the last man, which Gaddafi quoted a while back. However, you could say the war is pretty much wrapped up for the most part, it's highly unlikely that Gaddafi's Loyalists are going to somehow come back from this in a feasible manner. I guess Gaddafi's regime will be looked back on in the material archives, or it's possible that people will probably be hit hard with nostalgia in the future to come for the Libyan people; have some sense looking back at those events.

    The country isn't going to necessarily be progressive after this civil war and the collapse of Gaddafi's progressive regime. Gaddafi was up there with intelligence, well he especially theorized a lot of stuff in his Green Book such as the Third International Theory, and other such projects he had in his mind for Libya and the rest of Africa. The establishment of central banks across the continent. The new African currency he was going to implement. (Which by the way another reason that angered the West.) And just generally other progressive idea's he had in mind which were just about to be put into practice.

    So, none of you can say Gaddafi didn't really do anything for his people and the rest of the African population, it would be absurd to say he actually didn't do anything productive, but instead mass execute his own people, which is total nonsense.

    Enough of this rage, i felt like typing something pretty sizable and here you go.
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    You're forgetting that he's Gaddafi. Sic semper tyrannis.
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    Thus always to tyrants.
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    Without Gaddafi, the tribes will fight against each other.

    Black's will be lynched and persecuted.

    An Islamist state could be formed.

    Libyan Socialism and its perks of free healthcare and such will be no longer applicable to Libyans.

    And Libya will lose its solid color of plain green as a flag.
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    What we've learned of Caesars assassination is that it's not always a very bad idea to kill a popular dictator, 'cuz it will piss off the people! And the people will turn against you!
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    Probably not since Gaddafi discriminated against them and the new government will probably let them have representatives.
    They won't the only bad treatment of blacks were done by groups they didn't listen to the NTC.
    Most of the country is Muslim so I don't see a problem there and they also pledged to be moderate so I don't have a problem.
    They will probably keep it as it what they want.
    Good we got rid of the most boring and least creative flag in the world.
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    In my opinion here's how it works. People make a Dictatorship. Then after a little while the people demand freedom or a Democracy. Now remember the people made it a dictatorship now they want Democracy. Ok so now the people have overthrew the "Evil" Dictator. Now a Democracy is in place. Okay so let's see where we're at so far the revolutionaries have turned the Dictatorship into a Democracy. Well now the New government or the old revolutionaries have become what they fought against, you guessed it Dictators. Now were back where we started. And the cycle repeats.
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    Yeah, but Caesar had relatively good intentions while Gawdawfi (I can make it spelling I want) had zero to no good intentions for his society. Libya wouldn't have a Civil War if Gehdoarfee was good to the whole country, not just a small minority he's loyal to. Caesar wasn't really a dictator. More like an absolute monarch and he's different because he was going to change the Roman government in a way nobody wanted until it was done and working for whomever benefited from it.
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    I meant Roman dictator with dictator, but Caesar did and achieved great things and he was really popular among the people. Gaddhafi is just a selfish Arab leader who's now desperately trying to save himself and HIS Libya...
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    Gaddafi Captured

    In Sirte, NTC forces have captured Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi!
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    Gaddafi Captured

    Merged this into the Libya Superthread.
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    I somehow doubt it'll turn out to be him, but if it is this will prove interesting.
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